Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Care to share ?

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

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Couldn't resist :)

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I currently own Jolla 1, Jolla Tablet and Intex Aquafish (coverted to Jolla C) and tinkering with the idea of DualSim Xperia X (F5122). I definetly wanna try out to flash Sailfsih OS myself and am positiv on succeeding. Just read most of this thread and the instruction on sailfishos.org and have to say:
Apart from tech crazies, nerds, phone enthusiasts - who does Jolla really want to attract to come over from iOS or Android?
I am so baffled....Like always crazy announcements "Sailfsih on Sony hardware - we will make an image and you can flash it. Just need a linux pc"...

I love Arch and i setup my laptop from scratch via shell. So i am not too concerned about all of it. But as a company who wants to become 3rd in mobile OS market? Sorry NO user will go through that....I am suprised if even >=2000 will do that world wide....

EDIT: typos / sorry in advance if that is conceived as a rant - not my intention

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I am writing this on my new xperia x. Argos in the UK have it reduced to £250.
Love the hardware, but
OH MY GOD ANDROID IS AWFUL

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My one arrived today, I bought it from eGlobalCentral for £176 BUT the power button seems faulty :(


In regards to @hemiwi sailfishOS will always remain a niche OS for crazy people like us!

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My emphasis...

This - sailfish OS - is a tech demo.

It's client / target market (I believe) is government(s), especially ones that don't want "5 eyes" watching them

Having said that I've got my €50 ready

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When Jolla first started mentioning the Sailfish X stuff, it did sound like longer-term, they were aiming to get a user-friendly cross-platform installer out. As far as I've understood, the initial release is more like an open beta (no Bluetooth, remember), and really just for the hardcore fans who want to support the project and get Sailfish on a solid device. The Sailfish X infodump didn't mention any ongoing plans for the Sony devices, so they may or may not still be working on a nicer installer.

If you mean using a shell script on a Linux device to flash a phone, yeah, that's probably a bit far for most end-users. If you mean running a tool that happens to flash a phone, well, firstly loads of people do that in the Android world anyway, and secondly how else are you going to get another OS on it?

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Provide a Windows GUI application! With a single "Do it!" button and a progress bar.

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

It sounded like that was their original idea, yes. Whether it still is, I don't know.

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It is only 1 .bat/.sh file to run that will flash everything. Except on windows you'll need xperia drivers. Nothing different from flashing any android fw for most phones.

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The main piece of magic is packaging the blobs off the sony website into an ext4 formatted .img file. The stupid backwards bending we do to get around a silly EULA...

Aside from that its all straight fastboot flashing which you can do on any operating systen without trouble.

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Got my F5121 in a few hours ago, new/sealed. Backed up DRM keys/TA partition using the DirtyCow method (and copied the img to multiple locations, in case of disaster), unlocked bootloader, installed TWRP, installed a custom ROM...

It's Android, so it's still garbage... but it's not hot garbage.

Waiting patiently for official US/NA release. :)

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From day one, it has been said that it is a showcase and a community device:
They were not targeting everyone in the announcement, only their partners (the ones that can build phones, or use Sony phones in their "projects") and the community members, as this phone is also sometime presented as the new "Community Device" (following the Jolla C so).

Sorry, I couldn't help but highlight the "soon(tm)" in the announcement ;)


Not single click, you are forgetting the 7 "Next" buttons to click in the installer :p

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Can you pls help me with all those things that you did? I have a used Xperia X running Android 6 and is asking me to update to Android 7. I don't have a Linux PC. I have a Windows 10 PC.

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Have a look at this resource:https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=785

It is well worth reading the thread to help get a feel for it:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=Xperia+DRM

You don't mention whether Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit in which case you will probably need to disable driver signature verification at some point.

You are lucky in that you won't have to downgrade from Nougat provided you ignore any software update prompts.

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Thank you. I have now backed up my DRM keys. I have a few more questions:

1. My Xperia X is asking me to update my phone to Nougat. If I do so,
a. Will the DRM keys change?
b. Will I have to downgrade to Marshmallow again to install Sailfish OS?
c. If I upgrade my phone to Nougat, will doing a factory reset bring it back to Marshmallow? Will the backed up DRM keys still be relevant in that case?

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I suggest you to read that:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...ria-x-t3590476

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Btw if anyone wnats to flash stock, you just download sony xperias flash tool and plug your device in. its great

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As of latest Jolla blog and Sailfish build & flash:
Great!

There is still a number of small issues - for example, tethering only works using command-line. Most of them will be addressed in the next update.

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so i only now realized that what i thought was the F5121 in front of me is in fact the F8131 (xperia x performance). is there any use of it at this time? it's just going to gather dust otherwise, since it was bought second hand for the sole purpose of trying out sailfish on it.

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But can you downgrade a device from Nougat to Marshmallow with it?
And is there a linux version of the tool available?

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Not that I can take the slightest credit, but output may be useful to save anyone going through video frame by frame.

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Well, Iam in that boat too lol.
So, Iam going to try and port *soon*

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I double checked it before ordering mine, even more than the physical state of the phone :D
So many references for xperia :(

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no linux version as far as I can tell windows only and not sure i only had marshmallow available

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What are you talking about, there is a linux version, and even for the *spits* Mac OS. Better yet, the linux version doesn't need any special drivers, other than the ones from the android sdk tools. so no need to go into safe mode or some rubbish to install uncertified fastboot drivers.

EDIT: unless you're talking about Sony's official flashtool called Emma. But that doesn't even support the Xperia X. The other flashtool that was around before Sony's tool is the one I was talking about.

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You can’t downgrade with Sony’s companion tool.

You need xperifirm (Windoze) to DL files from Sony (FW).
Then use flashtool (Linux/win) to create the needed FTF files (from downloaded Sony FW files) to flash (using flashtool).

Since Xperifirm is Windoze only, you either need a Windoze avail, a VM, or DL files from elsewhere, probably less trusted places. Or, a helpful friend :)

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XperiFirm is not Windows-only. It is, however, developed using .NET, so you need to have mono installed to run it.

For Arch Linux, there's a xperia-flashtool package on AUR, which includes both the Flashtool and XperiFirm.

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yeah am on about emma...I think? I dunno anymore

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Well, you can get xperifirm to run under wine also.
It is still Windows though.
So, everyday users is better off using Windows.

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So heres a first attempt at a port for the X

https://mega.nz/#!T45hxTiR!5lOmNEmvc...QZtJDnG-5pH554

download
https://github.com/EpicAOSP/make_ext...in/make_ext4fs
https://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...w-6-0-1-loire/

and place in same folder as flash.sh

run flash.sh and follow instructions, you need to also download this and place it in same folder

happy flashings, major disclaimers if it breaks :P

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Anyone got the Bluetooth working?

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No?

The official thread on XDA explicitly mentions Linux and OS X support. Also, Mono and Wine are two completely different things!

You are not running a Windows software on Linux. The software was developed to be cross platform.

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That’s utter BS, it’s quite the opposite.
PS! I know what Iam talking about, I used to work together with Xperia team on XDA (when I was participating in unlocking the boot loader of Xperia play )
See screenshot from that page.

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Soon tm

Chars

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 

Well, if you "used to work together with Xperia team on XDA", I will shut up. I have nothing more than a superficial knowledge of Mono/Wine, and I just came here to correct your statement that XperiaFirm was only available for Windows and one would need to run Windows to use it, as I knew it was not true, because I use it on my Linux machine.

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I also said it will run under Wine (yes, needs proper config)
It is, however, a Windoze app!
So I repeat, for everyday user. Windoze is easier.

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Well, you said, and I quote:

I don't see a mention of Wine.

What I want to say is: If you use Linux, there's no need to search for a Windows computer to use XperiFirm in. Install the Linux version and, if it runs, use it! It can't hurt your computer or your Xperia X in any way, as its only purpose is to download the firmwares.