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jalyst 2013-07-20 11:42
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1360351)
Old dinosaur Nokia instead relied on the old-fashioned and seemingly deprecated usage of product- and platform-specific websites, where most information and news were conveniently aggregated.
Nokia fans couldn't get the depth of info. about progress for Harmattan (or projects before that) that we've been getting for Nemo/Sailfish, not even close.
You don't think they'll have product pages at launch? There's already dev pages, and no shortage of info. there for them to get started.

ggabriel 2013-07-20 11:56
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1360338)
Thanks, obviously written by a fanboy and shame about the not-so-great English, but I liked the videos and summary. It also supports my desire of testing BB10 if I ever have a chance.

jalyst 2013-07-20 12:01
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Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1360356)
...it also supports my desire of testing BB10 if I ever have a chance.
There's some pretty good threads here, have you been following them? (haven't been very lively lately though)

Lumiaman 2013-07-20 12:18
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I like how the fanboy gives due respect to iOS. It's been seven years since iphone was launched and it still rules th world. That is the success of true innovation. What I see in Jolla is refinement, but that is enough to sell to maybe 10k fanboys around the world, not to light the fire like iphone did. I still don't know how functional their email and keyboard are, something that everyone uses the most.

jalyst 2013-07-20 12:29
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1360362)
I like how the fanboy gives due respect to iOS. It's been seven years since iphone was launched and it still rules th world. That is the success of true innovation. What I see in Jolla is refinement, but that is enough to sell to maybe 10k fanboys around the world, not to light the fire like iphone did. I still don't know how functional their email and keyboard are, something that everyone uses the most.
Definition of a fanboy: Someone who gushes at how "teh awesome" & " teh bestest" something is, without going into great detail as-to-why it's much better than X/Y/Z.
Which in the case of iOS Vs Sailfish is a pointless exercise, until Sailfish has had at least 6mth to mature in the real-world, but that [clearly] won't stop the fanboys on both sides.

ggabriel 2013-07-20 12:32
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1360357)
There's some pretty good threads here, have you been following them? (haven't been very lively lately though)
Not really, but I appreciate the information. To be honest, I'm waiting (hoping?) that my company lets me swap my business iPhone for a BB10 device (the Q10 ofc) and then try it. I won't hold my breath though, and I won't get desperate if I never get a chance to do it.

ggabriel 2013-07-20 12:36
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1360362)
I like how the fanboy gives due respect to iOS. [...] I still don't know how functional their email and keyboard are, something that everyone uses the most.
If you are suggesting that iOS's keyboard and email client are anywhere near decent, then let me tell you that I completely disagree with you, from somebody that mainly uses his iPhone for emails. Explaining why both "features" smell would take time that I don't have, but there you go: my opinion.
In addition, and by challenging fandroid friends, it doesn't seem like Android's email client is any better, at least when it comes to IMAP. Needless to say, gmail works perfectly (duh).

Lumiaman 2013-07-20 12:50
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1360367)
If you are suggesting that iOS's keyboard and email client are anywhere near decent, then let me tell you that I completely disagree with you, from somebody that mainly uses his iPhone for emails. Explaining why both "features" smell would take time that I don't have, but there you go: my opinion.
In addition, and by challenging fandroid friends, it doesn't seem like Android's email client is any better, at least when it comes to IMAP. Needless to say, gmail works perfectly (duh).
Seven years of being a king means you are doing it right. iOS email is not the best, that goes to WP. However N9 was the worst email client in the history of smartphones. I ha to stop using it because of it, and keyboard was also way worse than iOS. Predictive input was horrible, and keys were not well spread out. Jolla needs to show me that the most used features are flawless. All they are showing now is their multitasking (my N9 never multitasked as it froze all the windows when left just like iphone does for obvious reasons to help battery life) and swiping which honestly are minor points in regular users lifestyle

Lumiaman 2013-07-20 12:55
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1360364)
Definition of a fanboy: Someone who gushes at how "teh awesome" & " teh bestest" something is, without going into great detail as-to-why it's much better than X/Y/Z.
Which in the case of iOS Vs Sailfish is a pointless exercise, until Sailfish has had at least 6mth to mature in the real-world, but that [clearly] won't stop the fanboys on both sides.
Definition of a fanboy: comparing OSs without even having the product in your hands. That is the worst kind of fanboyism and deceives audience of whether the OS is worthwhile buying or exploring. the facts are based on incompete OS and no device. I bought N900, because it was claimed that it will support all kinds of email including corporate email. Well, it didn't. I was deceived by fanboyism.

jalyst 2013-07-20 13:01
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Did I say the author of the article isn't one? I merely intimated that you share much in common.


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