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sevo 2007-11-25 13:19

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jussik (Post 99484)
1. US is the only place with free map data. At least in Europe finding anything usable is pretty much impossible...

Data generally are royalty-free (but aren't freely accessible, and O&S boards will often charge a fortune for delivering them), while end-user-ready maps often aren't. But a growing number of O&S boards are setting up GIS servers - for example you can access O&S maps of all of Germany at 1:25000 to 1:100000 resolution though the state and federal GIS services.

Sevo

Darius2006 2007-11-25 16:21

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Ok. You are right. Map data is also built by cars travelling the roads and is the way Google is building StreetView database.
I prepared Maps Interactive Update Proiject for Maemo challenge at maemo.org as Navteq developer, unfortunately maemo project manager from Nokia three times denied my access to maemo.org, telling there were already thousands of developers logged in (and only 500 N810s to be donated to developers).
So Nokia is not especially interested in development of interactive maps data involving community support.
So I am face-lifting, upgrading and managing some other maps data projects involving community interactive support.

Darius

Gumenite_Mecheta 2007-11-26 00:07

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Hi there I'm looking forward to buy N810, so far I have e few major questions about the built in GPS - what is the chipset ?Anybody have an Idea ? Can I use Tom Tom 6 software for Symbian with this tablet ?
Angel

ara178 2007-11-26 04:12

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
I have already returned my N810. The major reason for me was the GPS and WIFI, when I found out the routing and the voice-guided turn-by-turn navigation in Nokia N810 is a purchased item, I decided to return my N810 and settled for a $135 GPS from Garmin, with voice-guided turn-by-turn navigation, but no wifi - well I have my Blackberry. The n810 without a GPS system doesn't justify the $479 price tag.

Rocketman 2007-11-26 04:55

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumenite_Mecheta (Post 99892)
Hi there I'm looking forward to buy N810, so far I have e few major questions about the built in GPS - what is the chipset ?Anybody have an Idea ? Can I use Tom Tom 6 software for Symbian with this tablet ?
Angel

Gumentite_Mecheta, the Nokia Tablets run a version of Linux, not Symbian.

TA-t3 2007-11-26 14:04

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Ah, well. Maps aren't enough. It's tougher to write good navigation software than many people think. Sounds to me like TomTom solved the problems reported in Navicore years ago. For example, my 2004 version of TT comes not only with regional maps, but also with a special map called 'major roads of Europe', and to navigate from Paris to Wien (Vienna) you just load mjoe and off you go. Then, if you need to go to some minor road not covered in mjoe when you're near your target you just switch to the local region. I believe it's an even smoother operation in newer versions of TT (I bought TT5 too but as I'm happy enough with the older version I've yet to install it).

cuda440 2007-11-26 18:25

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Just my two cents worth. I purchased a 700 a few months ago, and was saving up to purchase the NavKit from Nokia when they pulled it. I presume because WayFinder bought Navicore, and Nokia bought Navteq. I was able to download the Navicore software and install on the 770, during the attempts to validate the key code I put in (Navicore will not sell me a key code) I was abel to "see" my GPS receiver and was able to locate me correctly on the map. I live in Ontario Canada.
It seemed to work OK, but as I said Navicore would not sell me a key and well Nokia were just as unwilling. If it was a cell phone no problem. Has anyone gotten NavIt to work, I am not a linux guy and the compile just gave me errors.
Would anyone that is unhappy with their Navicore be willing to sell me the key code and DVD, I need nothing else...

Thanks

Munk 2007-11-26 19:04

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
My problem with MaemoMapper is that it is using graphical images of maps rather than vector data. This is about 10 times larger (or more) in file size. Since I drive most of California I would need about 10 gigabytes just to hold SOME of the levels of detail that I would truely want to have.

That is where NaviCore or whatever it is called would probably shine. But, in the videos of this program, it's too dang slow to find any POI's. My older Pocket PC/GPS combo with Mapopolis (now out of the consumer level business) gave me tons of configurable options for road detail, zooming, POI's for a great price. It seems using the Nokia N810 and its mapping solution is a downgrade.

Capt'n Corrupt 2007-11-26 19:06

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Munk (Post 100277)
It seems using the Nokia N810 and its mapping solution is a downgrade.

... or in its infancy. It's likely that the quality of software will improve in the future!


}:^)~
YARR!

Capt'n Corrupt

YoDude 2007-11-26 20:26

Re: Biggest Disappointment: Nav Software
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Munk (Post 100277)
My problem with MaemoMapper is that it is using graphical images of maps rather than vector data. This is about 10 times larger (or more) in file size. Since I drive most of California I would need about 10 gigabytes just to hold SOME of the levels of detail that I would truely want to have.

That is where NaviCore or whatever it is called would probably shine. But, in the videos of this program, it's too dang slow to find any POI's. My older Pocket PC/GPS combo with Mapopolis (now out of the consumer level business) gave me tons of configurable options for road detail, zooming, POI's for a great price. It seems using the Nokia N810 and its mapping solution is a downgrade.

The POI problem has been resolved in OS2008. It now default opens with a list within approx. 50 miles to the displayed map location. In the Navicore version it would search and attempt to load every POI location if you didn't specify a proximity first.

POI's now are quite useful on the thing. :)

>> http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=11911


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