maemo.org - Talk - Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)

- Nokia N810 (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=28)

- - Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=12319)

Re: Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

What we need is this guy's invention, implemented as a vBulletin plugin. And right now.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...4554/index.htm

Re: Nokia 810 vs. Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 100954)

What we need is this guy's invention, implemented as a vBulletin plugin. And right now.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...4554/index.htm

Yahoo already installed stupid-filter and most of spam goes directly to trash.
Sometimes individual replies from maemo developers list go there too.
Building stupid-filter was my job 15 years ago.

BTW.
A nice Nokia 7700 blog comes from Finland.

http://nokia7700.blogspot.com/

Fans of N7700, N7710, N770, N800, N810

Already I know why Nokia 770 is not included into N770 N-Series product-line.
Nokia 7700 was great product but not market success.
Nokia 770 resembles to much its predecessor Nokia 7700.

Please have a look at Nokia7700 blog very for nice pictures.

To Nokia guys.
This place is not a shopping place.
So please don't force me to buy N810 immediately.

And don't be ashamed with your Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710, Nokia 770, really excellent first touch tablets made by Nokia.
Nokia 7700 was even more than Nokia 770 tablet, Nokia 7700 was already media rich touch tablet with camera and gsm.

I still have no answer why N810 is not smartphone yet.
3 years earlier Nokia 7700 was already excellent smarphone with gprs, bluetooth.
Look at dismantled parts of Nokia 7700 and GSM part.
I would prefer GSM module than keyboard in N810.

Darius
Thanks.
Darius

Re: Nokia 810 vs. Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darius2006 (Post 101048)

Nokia 7700 was great product but not market success.

That's quite understandable, as the 7700 was never available commercially!!!!!

The 7710, which could actually be bought, did not sell too shabbily for what it was: a weirdly-shaped, totally new device with a completely new operating system.

Re: Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

ok, I just looked up specs on the 7700/7710

64mb memory (or 90) is less than n800/n810

Old simbian OS instead of open source linux maemo platform

640 x 320 resolution screen (way less than the 800x480 on the 770/n800/n810)

NO WIFI.

I'm sorry, why would I want one of these old devices? it looks infererior in every single spec category than the internet tablets. Not to mention, you have to pay for a data plan if you want to browse the web. with my 770, I don't need to pay for a data plan, I just connect to a wifi hotspot, and I'm on the internet.

Re: Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by emory (Post 100840)

It is an old device, predating the N770 by about a year.

They ran Symbian Series 90, not S80. S80 is the OS for the older communicator devices, 9300, 9500, 9300i, and older.

Edit: Oh, it looks like a few other people already did the clarifications. Sorry!

Sorry, yes it was Series 90. Even more limiting!! I was actually very happy with the phone at the time, but it a weird problem with the dialer... Every time I called the AT&T conference call setup number, an automated operator would come on asking for the access code, but the 7710 wouldn't recognize an off-hook, so it wouldn't give me the on-screen dial pad. Very frustrating, and pretty much killed using it for work purposes for me anyway.

There really wasn't anything else like it at the time though... besides MS PocketPC/SmartPhone stuff, which is far worse.

Re: Nokia 810 vs. Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darius2006 (Post 101048)

Fans of N7700, N7710, N770, N800, N810

For the last time there's no such thing as a N7700, N7710 or N770 - you've already been corrected once, pay attention please. Don't bother posting again unless you can get the basics right! :)

As for the 77x0 devices, other than being handheld wide screen devices I fail to see what else they have in common with the current range of Nokia Internet Tablets. You're flogging a dead horse here trying to prove your argument which is that Nokia should go back to these old products in order to move forward - er no, actually Nokia have already learned all they needed to from those devices, which may explain why there is no phone/GSM module in the NITs.

I could tell you why Nokia didn't include phone functionality in the Nokia Internet Tablet range, but you probably wouldn't understand, but if you could you wouldn't believe me because you've already convinced yourself they should be mobile phones.

Please buy an iPhone.... :)

Re: Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike-y (Post 101067)

All good points, but the 7710's design is almost 4 years old. You also forgot to mention that it only takes MMC cards up to 1GB, that its videoplayer is incapable of displaying more than 18 fps and knows only of a couple of antediluvian formats.

But, quite interestingly, the 7710 came with a plastic stand that has an uncanny resemblance to the 770's stand. So "Darius2006" was right all along! They're the same!!! OMG!!!!

A couple of good points of the 7710 (some compared to other Symbian devices, others to the Internet Tablets):

- It had true multitasking. My UIQ-based P910 phone switches "Palm-like": if I switch applications, it loses information on a non-predictable basis.
- It came with a portable office suite (Documents To Go, I think. Or maybe QuickOffice). My N800 comes with nothing.
- It had transparent input windows, both keyboard and HWR input area, something still missing in the Internet Tablets.
- It had a better camera than the N8X0. Not that that is much of an achievement, but there you go.
- It had an actual PIM suite! Out of the box! And there's me thinking Nokia doesn't know this is possible.

But mostly it kinda sucked because it had so little memory that it sometimes reported negative numbers. (that last one's a joke, but only just)

Re: Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 101081)

But mostly it kinda sucked because it had so little memory that it sometimes reported negative numbers. (that last one's a joke, but only just)

Have you seen the size of the thing as well - it's so thick there's no way I could get that into a pocket... and I can't imagine putting it to the side of my head to talk into, the same designer must have been responsible for the 77x0 monstrosity as the original n-gage.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/kuramateu...krecona/19.jpg

Now that you mention negative memory it reminds me of when I managed to get a VAX to allocate -1 page of virtual memory and not surprisingly a very bad thing happened: the entire machine locked up solid - my first but not last success at crashing the mighty VMS! Worse still, the machine was located about 5 miles away at the time with no onsite support so someone (not me!) had to walk (no transport) all the way to reboot it. :)

Re: Nokia 810 vs. Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 101076)

For the last time there's no such thing as a N7700, N7710 or N770 - you've already been corrected once, pay attention please. Don't bother posting again unless you can get the basics right! :)

-- stop spamming.
and stop your mentoring philosophy
it's only up to me to use a description I like.

I like N7700, N7710, N770, N800, N810 line
because it's agreed with Nokia's philosophy to build better products.
Each one in the above series is further development of Nokia tablet.
Don't be ashamed of your products, your marketing strategy, your success and defeat.
Just do your job.
_______

As for the 77x0 devices, other than being handheld wide screen devices I fail to see what else they have in common with the current range of Nokia Internet Tablets.

-- your problem is your problem
Look at the following Nokia 7700 blog from Finland.

http://nokia7700.blogspot.com

You're flogging a dead horse here trying to prove your argument which is that Nokia should go back to these old products in order to move forward -

-- exactly what Nokia already does.
Nokia 770 was released with no camera
and Nokia 800 was released already with camera.

Nokia 810 was released with camera and no cell phone part
and Nokia 900 is due with wimax and cell phone circuitry.

____
er no, actually Nokia have already learned all they needed to from those devices, which may explain why there is no phone/GSM module in the NITs.

-- mayby mayby, don't speak for Nokia,

I could tell you why Nokia didn't include phone functionality in the Nokia Internet Tablet range, but you probably wouldn't understand, but if you could you wouldn't believe me because you've already convinced yourself they should be mobile phones.

-- philosophy and poetry is not my strong point as yours

Please buy an iPhone.... :)

-- Nokia is in competition war with Apple
and iPhone is flag ship in the war.

-- Nokia products in US have half the EU's price.

There is nothing wrong in competition.
But global markets are open and Apple's products are readily available in Europe and there is no way to stop private import.
Thousands of guest students bring back gizmos, cell phones, laptops from US to Europe.

Nokia's plans are to release Tablet cell phone as soon as possible.

You are fully aware Debian based products are not hot product, ok for Linux fans but not generating market share and profit.

It's ok to develop Linux based gizmos.
It's ok for Nokia and for Google,developing Android.

If you are on staff of Nokia, you shouldn't be ashamed of Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710, Nokia 770 models.
Really excellent to me.

If you are downgrading these models today how can I trust you in what you say today about N810.
You have told the same about these models 3 years ago, trying to sell them to new buyers.

You can succeed presenting such marketing strategy.
I don't trust you.
Your comments are to much business-profit-orientated.

Closed.
No more response pls.

Re: Nokia 7700, Nokia 7710 great touch smartphones

Whatever. :)

Did you discover who created the Maemo "virus" you "found" the other week, and have you uncovered the Microsoft mastermind responsible for this very site?