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Hedgecore 2008-01-06 00:41

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
*sigh* So uh. Same question he posed but lets pretend I've got a 770 instead and have an old WiFi router with a broken reset switch and I forgot the WEP key and it's for my sick Grandma.

Or cat if you like cats better than grandmas.

Bloodangel05 2008-01-06 00:54

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
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Originally Posted by Hedgecore (Post 121613)
*sigh* So uh. Same question he posed but lets pretend I've got a 770 instead and have an old WiFi router with a broken reset switch and I forgot the WEP key and it's for my sick Grandma.

Or cat if you like cats better than grandmas.

I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. It goes completely against my morals and beliefs. Subjecting the sick and old to wireless technology is a felony which should be punishable to a good 'ol fashioned Texas style death sentence.

zeusenergy 2008-01-07 07:16

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Originally Posted by jenova13 (Post 121472)
i agree with barry, his purpose for using aircrack may not be to screw people over and get internet connection for free, but rather to test the security of his network, or a network that he has been charged to test, as he says. Now there is always the chance that this isn't the case, but he's innocent until proven guilty.

I also agree, with aplomb. I would use it for getting access to a WEP encrypted network that I might be tasked to administer by affiliates that need assitance. Or how about the new customer you just got because the last admin only used WEP or nothing at all, not WPA with a lengthy, cryptic key to begin with? I've got two former "Geek Squad for Business" customers that way, using freely-distributed and documented tools:p
I bet the detractors of this concept of openness and doomsayers also use these tools in their arsenal, too. If they don't, they are missing out.

barry99705 2008-01-07 15:48

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
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Originally Posted by zeusenergy (Post 122338)
I also agree, with aplomb. I would use it for getting access to a WEP encrypted network that I might be tasked to administer by affiliates that need assitance. Or how about the new customer you just got because the last admin only used WEP or nothing at all, not WPA with a lengthy, cryptic key to begin with? I've got two former "Geek Squad for Business" customers that way, using freely-distributed and documented tools:p
I bet the detractors of this concept of openness and doomsayers also use these tools in their arsenal, too. If they don't, they are missing out.

If you have physical access to the box just reset it! You don't need the wep key to log into the access point on the wired side. Having the wep key isn't going to help you if you don't know the admin password anyway. You can reset to default and set up the box faster than cracking a wep key anyway. That's just bad busies practice. Though I guess if you're getting paid by the hour... As for grandma's old router, be a good grandson and buy her a new one with a working reset button. You'll then be able to use her old one for your girl robot you're building in your mom's basement. :D









That last sentence is a joke by the way.

ebe51 2008-01-07 22:17

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
Just a thought, but how many complaining about aircrack every downloaded an mp3 without paying?

barry99705 2008-01-08 01:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ebe51 (Post 122777)
Just a thought, but how many complaining about aircrack every downloaded an mp3 without paying?

That's stealing too. Did they stop teaching morals in school?:confused:

ebe51 2008-01-08 13:45

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
I know it's stealing, I just want to know how many people are giving the guy a hard time about aircrack, yet go and download free music. Personally I think most of us are guilty of doing this from time to time. Napster didn't switch to "pay" service for nothing.

I mean come on, who was a part napster?

Laughing Man 2008-01-08 14:14

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*shrugs* Whether it's stealing music or not really depends on where you fall in your belief system. Sure it's against the law (or civil law at least) but then again the law has been known to make bad laws. Such as the no buying alcohol before 12 PM on Sundays (hello? What happened to seperatation of Church and State?). Or getting into the road, when a girl is walking on the sidewalk. In the end it boils down to whether a person believes he/she is stealing music or not.

So it really depends on how you believe information should be shared. You can watch Steal This Film part II for a documentary on the sharing of information if you'd like (hey, something else to watch on a tablet :D). People trying to lock down information isn't anything new. They use to do the same thing with books until the printing press was developed. It's funny thinking that books used to be chained up and protected by guys with armor and swords.

barry99705 2008-01-08 16:05

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
There are legitimate reasons to use aircrack though. I use it at work, and have used it at client's homes and businesses. Hell, I've custom built computers that's just for pentesting. There is absolutely no reason to pirate mp3's. If you really want the song that bad and don't want to pay for it, do like we used to do in the days before the internet, record it off the radio! At the moment that's still legal. I'm all for free information, that's why they build libraries. They've got all the free info you could ever want, if they don't have it, they can order it. Leaching off someone's wifi network isn't about "free information". You're using a service that they have paid for, and you aren't. It doesn't matter if it's just to check email, or look up a phone number, you still haven't paid for it, and you are still stealing bandwidth from them.

mikedmann 2008-01-31 02:13

Re: Aircrack again - questions
 
Fine! I'll get off your lawn!


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