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debernardis 2008-01-26 18:12

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
Mine too, but after all those warnings and errors, abiword works (sort of). It is unstable, right, and not ready for serious using.
But eventually vapourware has condensed into something one can play with.
All my respect to ldrn.

BoxOfSnoo 2008-01-26 19:11

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
If you check the abiword page on garage.maemo.org you'll notice there has been some development in the last few days! Things are condensing. I like to think the action on this thread contributed to things getting started.
Thanks again.

HalSF 2008-01-26 21:43

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
This is great news. I installed it without problems on my N800 and It works with my BT keyboard, saves files, etc. I've been waiting for a decent word processing program in Maemo for a long time. Thanks to everyone who's working on it. The program regularly closes/crashes without warning at this point. I'm really looking forward to a stable release. Yay!

debernardis 2008-01-27 07:53

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
These regular crashes were an issue in the earlier phases of porting of Xournal 0.4.1, as documented in the related thread in these forums.
It was quite a "nominalistic" problem, as there were two parameters which were to have the same value in order to let the program run undisturbed, but when they were different the program was silently axed by the system.
Might be something similar? Just my 2 cents...

Chelli 2008-01-27 15:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ldrn (Post 133215)
Owwwww. Ok, I've done it. Thank you to Chelli and Mariotomo both; Chelli's libart package is missing a file needed to compile, though, and Mariotomo's libart has a different name, but with a bit of editing it all worked.

It would be really nice if you could provide me a fix (or at least if you could tell me which file is missing), so my libart package would work for you too.

The reason is that i intend to upload the libart-package (together with the other libraries needed for Gnumeric and Gnumeric) to extras-devel soon, and you could (and should) use my version then anyway.

ldrn 2008-01-27 20:56

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
You're welcome, everyone! I'm glad it's useful, even in its current error-prone state. I just wish I hadn't made that mistake with the dbus names.. <_<; (Thanks Debernardis!)

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Originally Posted by Chelli (Post 134381)
It would be really nice if you could provide me a fix (or at least if you could tell me which file is missing), so my libart package would work for you too.

The reason is that i intend to upload the libart-package (together with the other libraries needed for Gnumeric and Gnumeric) to extras-devel soon, and you could (and should) use my version then anyway.

I'm really sorry -- I was keeping notes on what I was doing as I went along, but accidentally deleted them and couldn't remember the exact file.

Comparing the versions I used to compile and your files, it looks like it's a symlink in /usr/lib from libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.19 to libart_lgpl_2.so -- does that even make sense? It seems to compile just fine using entirely your versions of everything now, though.

Again, very sorry. I've spent a few hours trying to track this down, but haven't been able to. It seems like it's a figment of my imagination, but I swear it happened...

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Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 134289)
These regular crashes were an issue in the earlier phases of porting of Xournal 0.4.1, as documented in the related thread in these forums.
It was quite a "nominalistic" problem, as there were two parameters which were to have the same value in order to let the program run undisturbed, but when they were different the program was silently axed by the system.
Might be something similar? Just my 2 cents...

* smacks face *
Wow. That was as great read, and my hat's off to Anidel (thank goodness he not only fixed it but posted how he fixed it) and to you for bringing that up. I'd have *never* thought it was that, but it could easily be -- the desktop and dbus service names were different, and then they were different again from the one called by osso_initialize in the code; it was exactly the same issue Xournal was having, and so I tried exactly the fix Anidel found, and it seems to work perfectly. At the very least, crashes are much reduced.

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Originally Posted by HalSF (Post 134131)
The program regularly closes/crashes without warning at this point. I'm really looking forward to a stable release. Yay!

*Hopefully* that's now! It still won't accept stylus input, although the word completion pops up fine, but I updated the version in the repository with fixes along the lines of what Debernardis said -- it seems much, much more stable. It also 'uses' Chelli's libart -- although that's unrelated. (Or largely unrelated...?) which might help with people who get dependency errors while installing.

It's in my repository or you can get the deb here.

It might not install if you haven't installed Abiword before, though, so in that case use the install link.

Chelli 2008-01-27 22:01

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ldrn (Post 134507)
I'm really sorry -- I was keeping notes on what I was doing as I went along, but accidentally deleted them and couldn't remember the exact file.

Comparing the versions I used to compile and your files, it looks like it's a symlink in /usr/lib from libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.19 to libart_lgpl_2.so -- does that even make sense? It seems to compile just fine using entirely your versions of everything now, though.

Again, very sorry. I've spent a few hours trying to track this down, but haven't been able to. It seems like it's a figment of my imagination, but I swear it happened...

Ok, thank you, so i will go on and start uploading packages to extras-devel, probably tommorrow. :)

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It's in my repository or you can get the deb here.
I would really, realy recommend you to update the version numbers in the debian/changelog file properly on every public release you make (you can use the tool "dch -i" to make this process very easy), the version you currenty use seems to be the one which is inside upstreams svn-repository, it should probably be something like 2.5.99+svn20080127-1 to match the current status better.

ldrn 2008-01-27 22:23

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
Thank you! I will do that from now on.

megabyte405 2008-01-27 22:25

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 
Hey - it's Ryan again! I'm working on an official AbiWord on Maemo (Internet Tablet Edition) build - which is what the garage project is. I'm currently running a closed beta test of a Chinook (IT2008) build, and am working on adapting the code to build for ITOS 2007 and possibly 2006 as well. If you are interested in testing an official alpha version and providing feedback to me (and thus also upstream AbiWord), please let me know via PM. At this time, only Chinook (that is, 2008) testers are needed. [Edit: No, I don't like having it closed, but since it feels official, I don't want anybody who doesn't know what they're getting in to - that is, an alpha/beta quality build - to get hurt. No test requests will go rejected, and I'll make the binaries public just as soon as I can run one on my own tablet in a reasonable manner.]

The build is being documented and condensed in the main AbiWord tree as well as in the official abiword maemo garage project. If you'd like to help with the development (ldrn, others?) please join the AbiWord Development mailing list and let us know what you can do! Then, take a peek at our bugzilla - http://bugzilla.abisource.com - pick a bug, fix it, and send the patch to the list. Requests for help also hit the list, so that's a way you can lend a hand as well. I appreciate all help - we've got a bug database that needs some pruning and definitely some Maemo and general AbiWord bugs that could use some squashing! If you want more info on the easiest bugs to get started hacking on, PM me - in general, the ones listed as "front end - GTK" are the simplest if you use Linux.

Thanks for your patience and assistance! I still anticipate having an official AbiWord on Maemo build released simultaneously with 2.6.0 on all platforms!

megabyte405 2008-01-27 22:55

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PS - BruceL - didn't mean to "reject outsiders" and that wasn't a form letter - I actually write like that :) I hadn't read this thread before today, and so wasn't sure whether you'd be able to help. Yes, that garage project is official - please join the abidev mailing list (pretty low volume) to help out - the project is small enough that we like to keep things all together upstream. I've put almost all the built dependencies up there - the garage interface is a pain to upload lots of files, so it will take me a while to get them all up.

Has anyone had experience putting things on extras-devel? I've been rebuilding Ubuntu Gutsy packages when I need a dependency (yes, I updated the instructions with the latest work I've done) and would like someone to double-check my work (do I need to do something with dch, for instance?) then be able to share it so we don't have to duplicate effort.

I haven't needed libart, and I'm not sure why since I seem to recall needing it before. Perhaps it's a dep of libgsf, of which there is now a good version in the repositories?

I don't want to give the impression that "your build attempts" belong elsewhere - I really want everyone to be included that can contribute, since with a community as small as the AbiWord dev community, it makes little sense to splinter. As long as I have some assurance that you'll use commit access responsibly and document all procedures (build instructions, etc), I'd be happy to offer project commit access on the Maemo Garage project.

I am a real person that wants to work with you, but even more wants you to work with the whole community behind me too! (Abi devs are not some far off corporate they, but rather some small-medium quantity of almost all volunteers - none of us has AbiWord as our "day job" as far as I know. We're not OpenOffice.org....)

Thanks for your help - I'm glad there is so much interest and now so many folks with ability to assist!


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