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But then - I am an Eee owner and welcome the 30 GB drive. Especially since it's running gOS on shipping so Ubuntu linux drivers are already sorted out. |
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Regarding the original question: Choose a machine based on what you want to do with it. If you want a web browser, Email reader, and music player, go low end with either a super-cheap Dell or an Eee or Cloudbook. If you want to edit video, write music, and bag college girls, get a Mac. If you want to run high-end games, you can't afford that laptop. Don't worry - neither can I. If you want a good all-around laptop, look for a cheap Pentium M or Core Duo from last year on clearance.
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I suggest to let's see what's mooler's idea after all the input and take it from there :rolleyes: |
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Yes, he's asking the wrong question. I agree with that. But people who have never seen a device saying that it's too slow, or too small, or won't do something, are out of line, IMO. The Eee is faster than my HP laptop. It certainly isn't for heavy graphics or gaming, but for the things most people do, including programming, it's better than a budget laptop, because it's faster, especially running Linux instead of Windows, it's smaller and lighter, and it's cheaper in the long run. Flash memory is getting cheaper, and you can plug a USB stick in and have plenty. Optical drives are only good for making permanent backups now, because you can get far more memory on a USB flash drive than is available on a CD or even a DVD for very little money, and it's easily and quickly rewritable. DVDs are going to be obsolete rather soon for most uses. Lack of a DVD drive isn't a major drawback any longer, and neither is lack of a hard drive, which uses battery power quickly. I've been looking for exactly what the Eee provides for some time, and would have been willing to pay more than double the price. It's not for everyone, and that's why they sell so many different types of computer, from handhelds to huge desktops. Everybody's needs and wants are different, and they vote with their pocketbooks, or at least their credit cards. The OP can use what he has to do what he needs, but doesn't want to. An Eee is the cheapest way to get a new computer that has the capabilities he needs. You don't need a huge screen for programming, or learning networking. If you want something you can use anywhere, anytime, and can easily take with you wherever you go, it fits the bill. You can get a new desktop much cheaper, and the one he has will do the job, but it's pretty much stuck in one place. Whether money or portability is more important is an individual decision.
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None of that makes it better than a Thinkpad X series though. It has similar dimensions/weight to the eee(not quite as small, but small enough) without any of the sacrifices. 12" LCD with a usable resolution is pretty important IMO.
The eee has the same resolution as the n800, and using a full KDE desktop isnt possible without running into issues of windows being too large. At least on the NIT the limitation makes sense, but a 2 pound $400 laptop should be able to run a modern OS and desktop. Asus had originally intended to make a 10" version of the eee(which I fully intended to purchase) but when they got rid of the 10" WXGA version and jacked up the price, the n800 became a lot more attractive for ultraportability and regular subnotebooks started being much more practical in comparison. Also, instead of the cloudbook, everex sells a $199 desktop at wal mart, that is about as low as you can go, and it is an excellent machine. You can buy a 19" LCD for another $130 and be all set. |
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Well, we can disagree, I guess. Price is an object for many. The lack of a HD is a plus for me. 12 inches is far too large for me. The windows aren't that big a problem, because you can drag them anywhere by holding the Alt key while dragging. Most are fine, but some apps require it because they've hard-coded the window size. Poor programming, but we have to live with it. It runs any modern OS around that any other Intel box will run. I agree that you can get a desktop cheaper. I got my desktop at Fry's for under $200 at Fry's, several years ago. I had to install Windows on it, though, because Windows costs more than $200, even on an OEM box. I wasn't up for Linspire at the time. I'm seriously considering putting some version of Linux back on it, though. Windows takes forever to boot, while my Eee go from completely off to ready to go in about 20 seconds, to the full desktop. From standby, it takes maybe 5. There are lots of choices, and making the correct choice is more difficult when people with no actual knowledge obfuscate things with uninformed opinions. I couldn't be happier with my Eee, but not everyone feels the same way. You need some computer knowledge to do more than the basics with it, but that doesn't bother me. It does some who only know Windows.
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Also, I want XP on my laptop. I don't WANT to run Linux. I don't WANT to use openoffice. I want to run Windows XP, and office 2007. It's what I use at work, it's mostly what I use at home and it's what I want to use when I'm on the road. I have plenty of mobile-optimized devices for when I don't want to pull out a full-fledged device (Treo, n800, ipod etc). When I pull out a laptop, I want a full-fledged computer with all the capabilities of my desktop. I don't foresee a machine with 512MB of RAM and a very limited amount of storage being able to run a very robust XP desktop. My outlook mailbox alone is over 2GB. I want an EEE, I'm not bashing it. I'm just saying, as most people do, that it's not a full-fledged desktop replacement for most people. It's a compromise at the moment, a good one at that, between capability, usability and form factor. It's somewhere between the n800 and a "real" computer. Maybe by EEE 2.0 they'll have addressed some of the limitations. I'm glad it fits your needs, but I can assure you that it doesn't come close to addressing mine at the moment. As far as the OP, he hasn't defined the capabilities he needs, but I would presume that running a windows-based OS would be part of that, if he's looking to learn about how to fix computers, since 90%+ of the world uses MS products. You can learn networking or programming on an n800 too. Or a TI-92. Or an Atari 800. Heck, you really don't even need a computer to learn networking. I think, as others have posted, that what he really needs is a big beefy desktop that can run multiple OS images and can be tinkered around with quite a bit without the form factor limitations and concerns that come with a mobile device. |
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