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sjgadsby 2008-02-18 18:37
Re: Could Maemo have been Android?
 
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Originally Posted by frethop (Post 144167)
But when you see an N810 on popular TV shows -- THAT's the device that people will want.
Yeah, look what Stargate SG-1 did for the Tapwave Zodiak!

Texrat 2008-02-18 19:41
Re: Could Maemo have been Android?
 
Look out, he's on a roll!

Texrat 2008-02-18 19:45
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Originally Posted by frethop (Post 144167)
But this does bring one of the keys to success: marketing.
BUT-- let us not confuse successful marketing campaigns with success OF marketing campaigns.

Apple has created the perception that they are more pervasive than they really are. That's great for the "cool" factor, but not so much for the bottom line. In fact, were it not for a huge infusion of cash (gasp! by MICROSOFT!) years ago, Apple may very well have been a dead joke by now.

Microsoft's advertising can be dull, their products ridiculed, their current CEO compared to a witless primate... yet they still managed to eke out and maintain more OS market share than Apple. Sure Apple has mind share... and that's worth... what again?

We'll see where Android goes.

amigokin 2008-02-18 20:06
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 144250)
BUT-- let us not confuse successful marketing campaigns with success OF marketing campaigns.

Apple has created the perception that they are more pervasive than they really are. That's great for the "cool" factor, but not so much for the bottom line. In fact, were it not for a huge infusion of cash (gasp! by MICROSOFT!) years ago, Apple may very well have been a dead joke by now.

Microsoft's advertising can be dull, their products ridiculed, their current CEO compared to a witless primate... yet they still managed to eke out and maintain more OS market share than Apple. Sure Apple has mind share... and that's worth... what again?

We'll see where Android goes.
Apple dominates the MP3 players market. Do you think Microsoft has ANY mind share with the fabulous Zune? Zu-what?

sjgadsby 2008-02-18 20:11
Re: Could Maemo have been Android?
 
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Originally Posted by amigokin (Post 144273)
Apple dominates the MP3 players market.
Really? I'd have expected that they dominate in mindshare, but all the little, no name, also rans collectively make up a larger portion of the market.

Texrat 2008-02-18 20:11
Re: Could Maemo have been Android?
 
What he ^ said

EDIT: besides, let Apple have MP3s. Eventually players will be cheaply incorporated into darn near everything, rendering that narrow market of dedicated players a fool's paradise. Like others in the thread, I was looking at computing platforms and operating systems... especially mobile ones.

johnkzin 2008-02-18 20:48
Re: Could Maemo have been Android?
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 144157)
Also, I don't believe most customers put fashion over function. Some, but not most. See: Apple's OS market share vs Microsoft's. ;)
If you want to use Apple vs Microsoft, you have to come up with some other statement. Microsoft is pure fashion (business fashion, sheepish herd mentality fashion, etc.), and not one lick of function.

Old Apple was, you're right, pure fashion and not much function. But that ended with OSX. Now its fashion combined with function, which is why they're growing again.

The only thing MS has going for it is legacy inertia. Definitely not function.

Texrat 2008-02-18 21:04
Re: Could Maemo have been Android?
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 144287)
If you want to use Apple vs Microsoft, you have to come up with some other statement. Microsoft is pure fashion (business fashion, sheepish herd mentality fashion, etc.), and not one lick of function.

Old Apple was, you're right, pure fashion and not much function. But that ended with OSX. Now its fashion combined with function, which is why they're growing again.

The only thing MS has going for it is legacy inertia. Definitely not function.
As a longtime Microsoft developer (Visual Studio, SQL Server, etc), I have to strongly disagree. But perhaps that opinion depends on one's experiences.


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