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Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 156872)

@rickyb

2 ways of installing.

Use Linux machine to set rd-mode. So then you can be root anyway.

Set application manager to red pill and untick use mmc to download packages. Then you can install easyroot/gainroot.

Sorry for being a newb...the first option will not work as I do not have another Linux box but I would like to try your second suggestion you mentioned but I am not sure how to get the app manager in red pill mode. Is it an option? I cannot seem to find it.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

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Originally Posted by rickyb (Post 156877)

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...06&postcount=8

:)

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 156879)

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...06&postcount=8

:)

Got it, thanks.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

I updated the first post based on everyones comments. Thank you for all of your suggestions!

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Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 156877)

It can be seen also in first output of /proc partition, no need to run df.

You're absolutely right. I still left in the df command, perhaps selfishly, due to my thinking it's an extremely helpful command that folks should learn, especially "df -h". :D

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Originally Posted by krisse

I think you're going to panic casual users with the use of the enormous red lettering followed by huge amounts of very complex technical details that non-technical people won't understand.

At the moment it looks like you need a course in programming just to format a memory card.

Personally, I'd consider data loss reason for panic. Please take a look at my first post updates and let me know if I've made it easier for IT newbies. Nonetheless, I really believe that anybody that can follow instructions can do the command line interface fix. I do however think that all of your points are valid and we are just looking at the same user community differently. I think you are providing a great service to IT beginners and as one, I enjoyed your tutorials, but they've left me very hungry for much more knowledge.

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Originally Posted by krisse

do you REALLY think those are simple enough for your "technophobe grandmother" to perform?

LOL, she still wants to know where is "any key"? ;)
It's a stretch, I know.

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Originally Posted by krisse

X Terminal is not the kind of thing that most users would ever touch. Command line interfaces went out of the mainstream with MS-DOS.

That's a matter of opinion. Might I suggest a reading of Neal Stephenson's In the Beginning...was the Command Line See the external links on that page for a ebook version readable on FBReader. I may not be a Debian user (other than on my IT), but the CLI is an essential part of my PC, Mac, RH, and Solaris boxes on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by TA-t3

only problem I have with the first post is the cyan colour used here and there, that isn't visible if you use ITT with the 'classic' theme.

Sorry about that. Changed it to red in some cases to highlight text since nobody complained about red.

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Originally Posted by Jaffa

What's needed is a noddy app, with no external dependencies, which checks the hardware revision and output of /proc/partitions, rejigs the partition map correctly and then prompts the user to use "Check Disk" on the card from a Windows box. Alternatively, bundle the app with its own copy of fsck which it calls to repair any corruption.

I'm with you on this one. My post should just a stop-gap measure until such a app exists.

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Originally Posted by Duncan

Anyway, I'd recommend using chkdsk first in case the disc is already corrupted, and xcopy rather than explorer to copy everything across to a PC for backup taking care at each stage to note any files which may be corrupted.

Sorry to hear you encountered the corruption Duncan. FWIW, chkdsk aborted every time I ran it and was unable to fix the read errors on certain files. The files that got corrupted were unrecoverable. I wound up using robocopy to copy the memory card over to my PC which automatically bypassed the files that would not copy. Hope you're back up and running now.

Should this thread be made "sticky"?

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

Originally Posted by rickyb
I cannot release (uncheck) my virtual memory. It gives me access denied therefore I cannot go any further with this fix. I was hoping to try the fdisk to format the internal memory card after successfully backing up all my data but couldn't get any further due to this error. Could someone tell me if I should just blow it away and start from scratch then try this fix or any other suggestions?

I have a N800 that had a similar problem. Corrupt swap file, and unable to release virtual memory. I was able to fix this by rebooting the machine and going immediately to Control Panel>Memory>Virtual Memory and unchecking the box (It seemed that since Virtual Memory had not been used yet it could be released). After this I copied my data over USB to my laptop, and used the File Manager to format the chip (SanDisk 4GB SDHC). Probably won't work in all cases, but should be much easier for the complete newbies.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

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Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 156872)

@rickyb

Set application manager to red pill and untick use mmc to download packages. Then you can install easyroot/gainroot.

Could you or someone tell me where becomeroot is located. I have installed easyroot but it doesn't seem to have the "unmount" command. I get this error:
"unmount: not found"
after getting root.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

sudo gainroot will get you root.

it's umount not unmount.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

oops...may bad. Thank you so much for all your help.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

I did get root using easyroot but I still can't get it to recognize the umount command. Could you point me to becomeroot so I could resolve this issue with my N810 exactly as is specified in this thread? Thanks again for your help.

Re: N810 OWNER ALERT, is your internal memory corrupted or will it be soon?

FYI. One thing...I have not been able to resolve the issue on my internal memory card re I cannot uncheck the swap file as the internal memory card is still read only. I'm sure this is part of the problem to which I do not have a solution.