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allnameswereout 2008-09-06 14:55

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
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Originally Posted by Mutiny32 (Post 221296)
Actually, the NIT is in their mobile division, so, yeah, it has something to do with the NIT.

Then the article is inaccurate. It keeps referring to "mobile phones".

Texrat 2008-09-07 03:59

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 221440)
Then the article is inaccurate. It keeps referring to "mobile phones".

The point was that the tablets exist because of the phone business.

allnameswereout 2008-09-08 06:07

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
Yes, I see the relation although when I posted here I was keeping in mind the NIT was profitable for Nokia. I had just read that in another thread.

Oh well, some new Nokia phones are about to be released... I'm excited! :)

gerbick 2008-09-08 06:25

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
I was excited about the N96... but I know that it'll never get subsidized and I'm not too enthusiastic about paying 800+ USD for a phone I'll replace in 13 months or so - that's how many months each and every Nokia phone I've had prior have lasted, give or take a month.

With that... if Nokia continues to lose mobile phone share, their fringe markets budgeting might shrink. And that... sucks. I love my 770, and I love my N810.

TA-t3 2008-09-08 11:05

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
I have an old Nokia phone as my private phone, but we don't use Nokia at work. The work phones are all of another brand, with a few exceptions. Those exception Nokia are mostly a pain, which is the main reason we don't all use them.

To make it short: It isn't possible to just dump the whole corp. contacts list (as a vcard file) into Nokia phones, they can only take contacts one-by-one, which is simply not an option for a corporation. Fix that, Nokia, and you'll have lots of enterprise customers. Even better, support categories (category=vcard file name, as on E.g. Palm), so that it's possible to scratch&reload by category and people don't have to suffer losing their private contacts.

Texrat 2008-09-08 11:48

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 221947)
To make it short: It isn't possible to just dump the whole corp. contacts list (as a vcard file) into Nokia phones, they can only take contacts one-by-one, which is simply not an option for a corporation.

I'm not sure where you get that idea. I have dumped my entire Outlook contacts into every Nokia phone I've used... and not one at a time. :confused:

TA-t3 2008-09-08 12:12

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
Vcard file. Not Outlook. If you use Outlook you're maybe OK, but not everyone is using Outlook. Vcard is the open format, and Vcard should be supported. Nokia kind of supports it, but it only reads the first contact (ie. it can only handle one contact per vcard file, which is insane).

brontide 2008-09-08 13:11

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
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Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 221964)
Vcard file. Not Outlook. If you use Outlook you're maybe OK, but not everyone is using Outlook. Vcard is the open format, and Vcard should be supported. Nokia kind of supports it, but it only reads the first contact (ie. it can only handle one contact per vcard file, which is insane).

Are we talking os2008 or some nokia phones. os2008 reads the whole vcard file, it mangles the crap out of it to the point of virtual unusability, but it does read more than one contact.

fpp 2008-09-08 13:21

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 221881)
I was excited about the N96... but I know that it'll never get subsidized and I'm not too enthusiastic about paying 800+ USD for a phone I'll replace in 13 months or so - that's how many months each and every Nokia phone I've had prior have lasted, give or take a month.

YMMV, as always. My good old 6021 is nearing its third birthday, and still going strong, on the original battery too...

TA-t3 2008-09-08 14:44

Re: Nokia warns it is losing market share
 
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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 221971)
Are we talking os2008 or some nokia phones. os2008 reads the whole vcard file, it mangles the crap out of it to the point of virtual unusability, but it does read more than one contact.

Nokia phones (as the thread started about Nokia market share - their market share is presumably made up from 99.999% phone sales - not NIT (yet) :)).

It's a pity about the way contacts is implemented on the NIT, but at least it can, as you correctly say, read more than one contact. For the phones, even if you can sync with desktop Outlook, how do you get the contacts into (desktop) outlook in the first place.. last time I checked, it can only read one entry too. It should be a very simple thing to fix, one should think, but it's been like that for years (Nokia and Outlook both).


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