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amadams 2008-12-03 21:40

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
I also said "apparently" which does NOT indicate certainty.

allnameswereout 2008-12-03 22:57

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
You're correct, there he said Linux maemo. Not properly capitalized. But ok.

Here he did not say (Linux) Maemo: "In the longer perspective, Linux will become a serious alternative for our high-end phones," Ukko Lappalainen, vice president at Nokia's markets unit, told Reuters in an interview on the sidelines of the "Nokia World" industry conference.

And, apparently does not cast enough doubt. Its used to cover your ***. See this thread for a better title: "Nokia eyes wider use of Linux software in phones"

There are no plans known to make Maemo for a (smart)phone. Maemo already supports VoIP/SIP though.

Next time when you report about news be sure you report accurate. Kthxbyepeace.

speculatrix 2008-12-03 23:07

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
I can't see Nokia wanting to keep three teams active: maemo + gtk, S60 and QT. They will almost certainly be studying them in detail to see what can be merged.

Benson 2008-12-04 00:19

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 246622)
The reporter writes: [...] could start to use open-source Linux software on its more expensive phone models. It doesn't say Linux kernel. It says Linux software.

Because there's some Linux software that's not the kernel? Only if you take Linux software to mean "software compiled for Linux" -- then I guess they could use FreeBSD with Linux binary compatibility. Or, more likely, they'd run it with a Linux kernel.

Considering the absence of other Linux-binary-compatible platforms in use by Nokia, and the comparison of Android to "Linux maemo", I'd agree that that article makes it "apparent" (though not certain) that Maemo or a direct successor will be used on high-end phones.

allnameswereout 2008-12-07 18:08

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
Because there are tons of initiatives to get Linux on the (smart)phone and tablet.

There are more Linux initiatives at Nokia. Think about Trolltech. Greenphone, for example. GPE, Qtopia Embedded. Do you believe Trolltech would not want to see Qtopia more in use?

Please read the article again carefully. Some of his statements are about Linux in general, not specific about Nokia.

Reasonably one is not able to conclude all what is said is about Maemo specifically, and if you know about some plans (the newest tablet won't do WWAN voice, only data) and the future (WiMax, LTE rolled out, Qt wider adopted, Symbian open source) you know already a lot. A reasonable conclusion is not _necessarily_ a Linux Maemo phone.

Necessarily is my point.

But ehm, to put this into perspective some recent screenshots [s]leaked[/s] as seen in presentation by a Nokia VP, and its been said these were of a prototype of Maemo interface. It looked very much like the N97 to me, and it also looked like a phone to me.

qgil 2008-12-07 18:33

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
What leaked screenshots are you referring to?

allnameswereout 2008-12-07 19:00

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
The 2 or 3 in this thread. With leaked I didn't refer to unofficially leaked. Wrong word for it, my bad.

qgil 2008-12-07 19:36

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
Sorry for being picky, but those slides are being spread as if they were leaked, when actually they belong to presentations of top Nokia executives publicly available at investors.nokia.com.

I guess "leaked" brings more visits and comments to a blog than "Vice-President". :)

skatebiker 2008-12-07 21:37

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by j d (Post 246462)
As much as i love both my n810 and Maemo, i will always prefer S60. Its just so easy to become a really advanced user of S60!


And S60 is just so much simpler. You never need to use the terminal, gain any roots or take red pills to get stuff working. It just works!

I don't agree, I have had 3 symbian phones : 3650, 6680, E70, they work OK but have to be restarted after 1-2 days use because the OS becomes unstable (3G connection does not work), some apps won't start and the browser is limited (no flash support and shows only stripped 'mobile' or WAP versions of some sites) and limited video support as well.
So Maemo is MUCH better !

But, compared to Windows Mobile Symbian is more stable.

chlettn 2008-12-07 22:21

Re: Symbian on N97 & the future of Maemo & the N**0 Internet Tablets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skatebiker (Post 247643)
I don't agree, I have had 3 symbian phones : 3650, 6680, E70, they work OK but have to be restarted after 1-2 days use because the OS becomes unstable (3G connection does not work), some apps won't start and the browser is limited (no flash support and shows only stripped 'mobile' or WAP versions of some sites) and limited video support as well.
So Maemo is MUCH better !

You're basing your conclusing on devices that are between well over 2 and 5 years old - there have been like 2 hardware generations and 3 software revisions between the E70 and now, so your conclusions aren't really all that valid nowadays...


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