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TrueJournals 2009-04-08 20:47

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
Definitely a maemo.org-style header. It seems like the whole community wants to move towards maemo.org being a central "hub" for everything tablet related. I definitely think that's moving in the right direction, and ignoring user information there when the switch to talk.maemo.org is made would be a huge mistake.

penguinbait 2009-04-08 21:04

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
I am for leaving it just as it is, but perhap moving the Senior level post count up so it means more? And increase the PM quotas on lower levels.

I see no reason for 8 levels of madness.

if it must change!
EVERYONE on this page should be TOP level , with NO higher levels


So to me around 1000 posts would indicate a Senior level.

GeneralAntilles 2009-04-08 21:09

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 278438)
I am for leaving it just as it is, but perhap moving the Senior level post count up so it means more?

I guess you missed the earlier thread. The idea here is to have meaningless member levels. The problem with having Junior and Senior members has been illustrated quite well when new members assume that the Senior title means something when it doesn't. Avoiding this was the whole impetuous of my proposal to change it.

qole 2009-04-08 21:41

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
I like the maemo.org style header, but I still think there should be some kind of talk.maemo.org-specific thing on there, something that is calculated from posts and thanks within the forum*. Perhaps a combination of the first two suggestions?

I still think that if you hit a certain level you can choose from a set of oddball names, like "Sardine", "Elephanta" or even a custom one.

*Disclosure: I'm proud of my post:thanks ratio on ITT, so I am biased here.

mikkov 2009-04-08 21:51

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
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Originally Posted by jmjanzen (Post 278408)
i agree with GA on this one. consider the previous discussion like the primaries and this is the actual election. if you don't like any of these 3 choices, then either you missed out on the original thread or there just aren't a whole lot of people that agree with you.

I know the earlier thread (which was only discussing another options). This is more of a matter of principle. Now the decision has already been made that there will be a change, without any polls. If there was option for no change we would find out if there is support for current system.

But I don't really care about member levels, so I let them choose who do care.

YoDude 2009-04-08 22:13

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 278440)
I guess you missed the earlier thread. The idea here is to have meaningless member levels. The problem with having Junior and Senior members has been illustrated quite well when new members assume that the Senior title means something when it doesn't. Avoiding this was the whole impetuous of my proposal to change it.

IMHO then, they should be truly meaningless or not there at all. Unfortunately anything with an ascending hierarchy will be viewed by some as some sort of rank or competitive badge of honor. Simply using the post count may do this as well.

This in turn may lead to meaningless short posts like " I agree completely." which add nothing to the thread but do add to a newbies post count.

As much as I have kicked and moaned lately about this forum becoming more like maemo.org (from now on known to me as m/o), if we are going to do it, it might as well be whole hog.

I voted for the m/o style header because it does look more polished and is more unique among other forum styles.

Another possibility is to make more user customizations available to a member based on time and/or post count. Each member can decide how or if they want to show their colors.

After so long and/or so many posts a member can upload their own avatar. Below that they can only choose from 10 or fifteen forum provided ones. At another time and/or grade a member might be able to use his own title. Below that they are given 1 of 10 random ones. (< These random titles could change at random intervals as well, to to add some interest and fun.) At yet another level, features like the infamous thread tags are made available... and so on.

This is new to me. Most publicly viewed forums that I've dealt with are privately owned. What the owner wants, the owner can get. This forum from what I gather, will be something different.

GeneralAntilles 2009-04-08 22:19

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
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Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 278445)
Now the decision has already been made that there will be a change, without any polls.

Hardly, the results of this poll are only a suggestion.

penguinbait 2009-04-08 22:24

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 278440)
I guess you missed the earlier thread. The idea here is to have meaningless member levels. The problem with having Junior and Senior members has been illustrated quite well when new members assume that the Senior title means something when it doesn't. Avoiding this was the whole impetuous of my proposal to change it.

I know thats why said move the senior post count up to 1000 so it will then mean something. I swear to God, I think sometimes I am speaking another language?

GeneralAntilles 2009-04-08 22:33

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
IMHO then, they should be truly meaningless or not there at all. Unfortunately anything with an ascending hierarchy will be viewed by some as some sort of rank or competitive badge of honor. Simply using the post count may do this as well.


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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
This in turn may lead to meaningless short posts like " I agree completely." which add nothing to the thread but do add to a newbies post count.

How does the current system not lead to this? We already have member levels, karma, and post counts to whore for. A new member level system wont change that.

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
As much as I have kicked and moaned lately about this forum becoming more like maemo.org . . .

The reasoning behind which I still can't fathom.

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
. . . (from now on known to me as m/o)

URLs are generally abbreviated with fullstops. So you're looking for "m.o".

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
After so long and/or so many posts a member can upload their own avatar. Below that they can only choose from 10 or fifteen forum provided ones.

What's the advantage here? More post-count whoring? If new members are abusing avatars, that's something to deal with on a case-by-case basis.

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
At another time and/or grade a member might be able to use his own title.

An idea that's been proposed a couple times. I'd like to see it myself, but I'm not sure how high general support is. We may need a plugin for it.

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
Below that they are given 1 of 10 random ones. (< These random titles could change at random intervals as well, to to add some interest and fun.)

Random is just spam (much like the tag system as it currently stands).

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 278450)
This is new to me. Most publicly viewed forums that I've dealt with are privately owned. What the owner wants, the owner can get. This forum from what I gather, will be something different.

Again, haven't we reviewed this fact previously? Reggie is still in charge of Talk. . . .

GeneralAntilles 2009-04-08 22:35

Re: Member levels, let's decide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 278453)
I know thats why said move the senior post count up to 1000 so it will then mean something.

Perhaps I should have made it more explicit: 100 posts or 1000, post counts don't tell you much about a user or their experience, so attaching meaningful ranking systems to a meaningless number is pointless.

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Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 278453)
I swear to God, I think sometimes I am speaking another language?

I don't know, do you?


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