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Re: NEWS: MS and NOKIA Announcing Alliance tomorrow

Maybe I'm the only one who truly prefers openoffice to the microsoft office suite? Not just for sociopolitical reasons, but because "feels" better?

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Word should die and rest in peace, (as should OpenOffice for the same reason).
It's difficult, considering that we all live in a Dilbert cartoon, but it is possible.

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Originally Posted by nwerneck (Post 311090)

It's amazing how Office manages to be incompatible with anaything else. Word and Excel files have grown up into bloated monsters full of unheard-of features that always make programs like open office and mobile versions of the programs break when they read less simple files. I can never fill simple forms that are sent to me because they are never opened quite right in openoffice. And it is quite annoying that it can't diagnose exactly where can be a problem when you switch file formats.

if i understood some blogs right, the ms office formats are basically memory dumps of whatever the program is up to at any one moment. And the oldest parts of the formats can be traced back to competitive programs from the 80's (embrace, extend, extinguish frozen in time, as most will not know of the programs "supported", let alone used them).

if one study microsoft products, one will see that the support for third party formats of any kind drops like a rock ones said ms product hits a dominant market share...

that is why i really hope we will see a open format on external storage thats foture proof, and that microsoft will need to support...

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Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 311103)

Well, for one - instead of innovating you will be forced to reverse engineer and support MS's proprietary formats. Its an already lost battle.

I guess that's the problem. Why even go after those formats... have something that print, office, enterprise and commercial would latch onto instead.

Especially with the problems that come with those formats. PDF did rather well in a historically MS only market.

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 311155)

Why even go after those formats...

Because when your boss sends you a .doc or a .ppt file, "why don't you use OpenOffice instead?" is the last answer he wants to hear from you. Isn't it obvious?

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have something that print, office, enterprise and commercial would latch onto instead.

Ah! An optimist! :)

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 311157)

Ah! An optimist! :)

Quite different. I'm a realist.

And as it stands, despite all of the fancy jaw-jacking of open this or open that, nothing has replaced what's complained about the most quite yet.

And I don't mind using MS Office. It works as I need it to work.

NeoOffice/J on my Mac. OpenOffice on my Linux boxes.

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 311164)

Quite different. I'm a realist. And as it stands, despite all of the fancy jaw-jacking of open this or open that, nothing has replaced what's complained about the most quite yet.

And not going to, in the foreseeable future. MSOffice is way too deeply entrenched for Nokia not to support it on any device that it intends to sell to the suits.

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also, suits, especially those that deal with turning data into glossy prints, are highly conservative...

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 311157)

Because when your boss sends you a .doc or a .ppt file, "why don't you use OpenOffice instead?" is the last answer he wants to hear from you. Isn't it obvious?

Just reply to him with a targa image file, but I guess I'm very lucky my boss has a sense of humour ;-)

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 311053)

This thread has the gory details... MS Office on Nokia phones :eek:

WTF, seriously. Why not get OpenOffice.org working well?

Ding, ding, ding... We have a winner! :)

The fear that the Maemo community will do just that may have been what brought M/S to the table in the first place.

Hell, M/S may have even been motivated to open the dang discusions.