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Jack6428 2009-09-06 13:49
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Originally Posted by jsa (Post 322636)
One thing to remember in this case is that the whole point of Qt is to simplify cross-platform development between Symbian and Maemo. And this also applies to internal Nokia development. As you probably know, Symbian^4 with it's renewed-from-ground-up Qt UI is also slated to be released around the end of next year. And I think building the new UI/app suite for Symbian is even more herculean a task than that of Maemo which is why I assume they will share as much code as possible. The point I'm trying to make is that there might be both the Maemo developers _and_ the Symbian developers working for the same goal.
that sounds possible and wouldn't actually surprise me that much... depends how much Symbain 4 will be similar to Maemo 5/6 and vice-versa, but all in all, trying to develope efficiently cross-platform for these two would be a great addition and perhaps in 5-8 years from now (when the new nanotechnology generation arrives) all Nokia phones will be using only one same shared OS...although, Nokia tends to be variable with devices to apply to the widest range of users possible, so who knows how it will end up...

BaKSo 2009-09-06 14:40
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quick question still regarding to what Dr ari, is N810 upgradeable to Maemo 5? will it be the same case as from Maemo 5 to Maemo 6 ?

Texrat 2009-09-06 14:48
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Originally Posted by BaKSo (Post 322661)
quick question still regarding to what Dr ari, is N810 upgradeable to Maemo 5? will it be the same case as from Maemo 5 to Maemo 6 ?
Posts like that tell me somehow we need to reeeally elevate the awareness of Mer...

BaKSo 2009-09-06 15:02
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 322664)
Posts like that tell me somehow we need to reeeally elevate the awareness of Mer...
okay i just read about Mer in wiki, still because i just got here, and don't know anything about programing and developing =(, i don't understand please tell me if i'm wrong..
so this is what is understand,

OS2008 cannot be upgraded to Fremantle?
That's why the community create Mer that is an upgrade for Diablo?
so the Fremantle also cannot be upgraded to the future Maemo 6 but the community will develop some kind of Mer for Fremantle?

i'm sorry if i sound stupid.. but really i don't understand..

Texrat 2009-09-06 15:06
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The N810 and previous hardware just don't have what it takes for many Fremantle features. Mer is the community-led solution. I don't know the full extent of its future.

And you don't sound stupid... it's just that this subject keeps coming up again and again and again...

sjgadsby 2009-09-06 15:27
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Originally Posted by BaKSo (Post 322668)
OS2008 cannot be upgraded to Fremantle?
Nokia will not be releasing Maemo 5 for the 770, N800, or N810, correct.

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That's why the community create Mer that is an upgrade for Diablo?
Some folks in the community started the Mer project because they felt Maemo could be redesigned and rebuilt in a better, more open way. This happened well before Nokia announced Fremantle and its lack of support for older hardware. So, continued support for old hardware is a benefit, but wasn't the impetus.

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so the Fremantle also cannot be upgraded to the future Maemo 6...
Nokia has made no announcements regarding Maemo 6 for Maemo 5 devices. At this time, it appears unlikely that Maemo 6 devices will bring the same sort of performance leap as is keeping Maemo 5 from older devices, so it seems probable Maemo 5 devices will be upgradable to Maemo 6. No one is promising anything though.

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...but the community will develop some kind of Mer for Fremantle?
As explained above Mer isn't "Fremantle for older devices". Mer is another OS, compatible with, and developed alongside, Maemo, but in a more open way. Currently, Mer targets Fremantle technologies, but as Nokia releases details of what Harmattan will bring, Mer development will adjust to match it.

sachin007 2009-09-06 16:27
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 322678)
Nokia will not be releasing Maemo 5 for the 770, N800, or N810, correct.



Some folks in the community started the Mer project because they felt Maemo could be redesigned and rebuilt in a better, more open way. This happened well before Nokia announced Fremantle and its lack of support for older hardware. So, continued support for old hardware is benefit, but wasn't the impetus.



Nokia has made no announcements regarding Maemo 6 for Maemo 5 devices. At this time, it appears unlikely that Maemo 6 devices will bring the same sort of performance leap as is keeping Maemo 5 from older devices, so it seems probable Maemo 5 devices will be upgradable to Maemo 6. No one is promising anything though.



As explained above Mer isn't "Fremantle for older devices". Mer is another OS, compatible with, and developed alongside, Maemo, but in a more open way. Currently, Mer targets Fremantle technologies, but as Nokia releases details of what Harmattan will bring, Mer development will adjust to match it.


Best post ever! This should be a sticky somewhere.

christexaport 2009-09-06 17:21
Re: Video Interview With Dr. Ari Jaaksi
 
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Originally Posted by jsa (Post 322636)
The point I'm trying to make is that there might be both the Maemo developers _and_ the Symbian developers working for the same goal.
The biggest thing I took from Nokia World, which I covered in my last article on this whole Maemo/Symbian thing, was the Ovi SDK. We won't have Maemo developers and Symbian developers in the case of Nokia devices. We'll have Ovi developers, and the apps will be adaptable for all Symbian AND Maemo devices.

I think that itself will put Nokia in the driver's seat for becoming a standard platform. If Maemo or even Symbian^4 netbooks make it on the scene, or Nokia produces a dual boot Maemo/Symbian smart tablet, Nokia is poised to be the Microsoft of the next 20 years.

tso 2009-09-06 19:03
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i keep thinking that nokia is making a mistake not launching a tablet next to the N900, or just a N900 minus the mobile radio.

i du want to keep up with the maemo world, but i have no need for two phones, nor any need to replace my current phone.

right now we are (again) looking at a developers platform, not a general customer product...

Texrat 2009-09-06 19:12
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 322737)
I think that itself will put Nokia in the driver's seat for becoming a standard platform. If Maemo or even Symbian^4 netbooks make it on the scene, or Nokia produces a dual boot Maemo/Symbian smart tablet, Nokia is poised to be the Microsoft of the next 20 years.
The other IF being, of course, getting Ovi itself usable... (sorry for the dead horse)


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