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Re: N900 in business environment

mail for exchange is listed in the official specifications and should take care of synchronisation with an exchange environment.
this software is avaliable for s60 for quite some time now, and it works great, i use it constantly.
so no need for active sync or pc suite.

i didn't really miss subfolder support, because when i'm going somewhere only the most recent messages are of interest anyways.
but since the n900 is marketed as an always-on mobile computer maybe they improved mail for exchange as well.

the version of modest for earlier tablets did support multiple folders, so i think it's not too far fetched to assume the maemo5 version will do so too ;)

EDIT:
one thing to keep in mind is of course the fact that you need a properly set up server to be able to sync with. a working outlook client alone is not a viable sync target for mail for exchange.

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by handrea (Post 330422)

In general do you think that buy and use an N-series device in business environment could be a mistake?

The only difference between Nseries and Eseries has been build quality, battery life, and included apps. The Eseries devices have Mfe and multiple desktops and settings for work and personal usage, but usually lack in the multimedia space. The Nseries have several models that also ship with the various business apps, and have the better cameras and media features.

I find that I prefer to go with the Nseries and install the missing business apps for a well rounded business device, but you may want to save money and go with the more sturdily built device.

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 331263)

The only difference between Nseries and Eseries has been build quality, battery life, and included apps. [..]

Thank you, I always followed with interest the E-series devices but I never had one: I was scared to miss something fundamental in N-series for business. If the main difference is only in apps (but I can installl them).. the N could not be a problem :)

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by zkyevolved (Post 331026)

Ummm... Question!

http://maemo.nokia.com and click email at the very bottom and it CLEARLY states "exchange for mail" pushing mail, contacts and calendar to your phone... Isn't this what everyone is waiting for? :S ....

Yes, I read them and I saw all Videos :). Unfortunately I trust more of your opinion / experience than commercial promo :)

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Originally Posted by zkyevolved (Post 331026)

Or are you all talking about syncing software for your PC/MAC/UNIX-LINUX system?

Yes, unfortunately my Exchange question is more related to our customer / deployment scenarios. Personally I need the possibility to sync my device with Outlook (simple pc + cable + device solution :) ).

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Originally Posted by zkyevolved (Post 331026)

As long as I can sync to Google, I'm set. :)

I dislike to be in and solve my problems in the Google Cloud..

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 331095)

the version of modest for earlier tablets did support multiple folders, so i think it's not too far fetched to assume the maemo5 version will do so too ;)

Yes, I discovered the existence of modest here some thread ago and I think is really interesting so we could have a good mobile email client.
Don't you think could be a nice idea if Nokia would release the PC-Suite/What-ever-Suite used for PC-to-Maemo sync opensource in order to be able to work and fix it?

Re: N900 in business environment

to me it appears that the differentiation between the n-series and e-series do not apply to the same extent in maemo/n900, if at all.

the e900 mockup pictured here looks interesting, but i still don't see the point in separate n- and e-series for the maemo platform.

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by handrea (Post 331312)

Don't you think could be a nice idea if Nokia would release the PC-Suite/What-ever-Suite used for PC-to-Maemo sync opensource in order to be able to work and fix it?

considering the fact that maemo is debian-based, i would just love to see tighter integration btwn my soon-in-my-hands-n900 and a debian desktop such as ubuntu.

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by edgar2 (Post 331314)

Hi, what about this mockup? Is just an idea or Nokia is working on a e900 alternative? In any case I would prefer that e900 for the keyboard layout. Perhaps, the only positive think of my TyTN device is the keyboard layout.

A bad think of TyTN device (that makes the keyboard quite usesless :) ) is the time delay since you press a key to the char appears on screen: if you write fast, often it simply miss chars or words (silly but true!). Did you experienced anythink like this on N900 device?

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by handrea (Post 331312)

Don't you think could be a nice idea if Nokia would release the PC-Suite/What-ever-Suite used for PC-to-Maemo sync opensource in order to be able to work and fix it?

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Originally Posted by edgar2 (Post 331315)

considering the fact that maemo is debian-based, i would just love to see tighter integration btwn my soon-in-my-hands-n900 and a debian desktop such as ubuntu.

See this thread here.
the n900 supports SyncML over USB and Bluetooth. SyncML is an open specification, so we will most likely see synchronisation tools for linux (like syncevolution)

Re: N900 in business environment

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 331263)

Let me expand on this as someone who has used an N95 and an E71 to support my corporate Exchange account. There is a huge difference in messaging approaches between the N-series device and the E-series device. What christexaport says is somewhat true that the E-series tend to have better build quality while the N-series will have more of a multimedia focus with better camera. However the home screen setup is so much better with E-series, showing quick snapshots of email accounts, calendar and notes. This provides a quick, easy way to get to email inboxes or preview what message has come in by highlighting the box. They typically have dedicated keys to get to contacts, calendar and your email. E-series is designed to be a messaging device first and this difference is so frustrating when going back to the N95 and I feel my productivity take a hit. You can install Mail for Exchange on the N95 but the implementation is not even close to what it is on an E-series device.

E-series will come with a full version of Quickoffice to allow you to edit documents where N-series comes with a read only version.

Now, the N900 isn't Symbian so it's not coming with Quickoffice but I thought I saw it came with a Docs to Go install? Also, hopefully you can add an email widget to your screen to enable you to see what's hit your inbox. How will they do subfolders? If they do subfolders... Don't believe everyone when they say Mail for Exchange is "awesome", it's not but it gets the job done. I have high hopes for the implementation in Maemo but I will reserve judgment for when the device starts shipping and I see reviews.

The problem with waiting for reviews is that few people actually use these devices in a corporate environment so you will hardly ever see a review based on that. I searched forever to find a review of the new messaging on the E75 and it came down to me actually requesting a trial device from WOM World so that I could actually see it for myself. So I wrote my own review. Maybe I'll be able to get my hands on a trial N900 as well but we'll see. Wait and see and ask questions when the device starts dropping.