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adem3311 2009-10-08 21:28

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
Too bad maemo apps have to be in python. If they could be in javascript we would have lots of apps.

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-10-08 21:53

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
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Originally Posted by adem3311 (Post 342118)
If they could be in javascript we would have lots of apps.

This is EXACTLY right. +1 to you sir. In fact, watch the Palm OS library explode as it is DEAD EASY to code an app in DOM/javascript, especially if you have useful APIs (prototype/jquery, scriptaculous, cappuccino, etc). Lower barrier to entry == more entry.

I know Nokia's working on a web-runtime, but I'm not up on the details... I'm also too lazy to look them up... I'm also hungry...

}:^)~

zerojay 2009-10-08 21:54

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
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Originally Posted by adem3311 (Post 342118)
Too bad maemo apps have to be in python. If they could be in javascript we would have lots of apps.

Where do you get the idea that Maemo apps HAVE to be writtin in Python.. or anything else, for that matter? There are and will be bindings for all sorts of languages.

javispedro 2009-10-08 22:02

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 342132)
it is DEAD EASY to code an app in DOM/javascript, especially if you have useful APIs (prototype/jquery, scriptaculous, cappuccino, etc).

:eek:
Javascript easy? :eek: Specially, compared to python?

Corwin_bg 2009-10-08 22:04

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
I don't mind Python... just making my first steps with PySide actually. But a web runtime would be a killer. I can do that with closed eyes and one hand behind the back :)

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-10-08 22:14

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Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 342137)
:eek:
Javascript easy? :eek: Specially, compared to python?

I think its the fact that the browser takes care of most of the heavy lifting for you already. In that way it's a great development environment. The most important part of the layout (the DOM) is handled by the browser. You simply need position elements with HTML, and then have the javascript manipulate that. It's VERY easy to make useful programs.

Javascript is a very flexible OO-langauge that shares similarity with Ruby. It's very easy to get into, even if you are just doing procedural programming.

}:^)

GeneralAntilles 2009-10-08 22:17

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 342132)
This is EXACTLY right.

Actually, it's not, Python isn't even remotely close to being the only language on Maemo. Hell, it's not even an officially supported one.

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 342132)
I know Nokia's working on a web-runtime, but I'm not up on the details... I'm also too lazy to look them up... I'm also hungry...

See the presentation listed in the Summit schedule.

javispedro 2009-10-08 22:19

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 342146)
You simply need position elements with HTML, and then have the javascript manipulate that.

No, you don't mean HTML then. You position the elements using a GUI, and that's where the easiness comes from.

I code HTML and Javascript by hand and I can tell Python is waaaaaay easier (and nicer!). I'd even consider C to be easier.

So, wait for a proper PySide GUI instead.

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-10-08 22:25

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 342149)
Actually, it's not, Python isn't even remotely close to being the only language on Maemo. Hell, it's not even an officially supported one.

The 'exactly right' was referring to the javascript-programming-would-yeild-many-apps portion of the quote. I'll be clearer next time to avoid confusion.

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See the presentation listed in the Summit schedule.
Thanks!

}:^)~

mdl 2009-10-08 22:28

Re: Let's get those android and iphone developers
 
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Originally Posted by adem3311 (Post 342118)
Too bad maemo apps have to be in python. If they could be in javascript we would have lots of apps.

IMO, a claim like this is evidence of the pernicious effect that locked-down phone OS's have on computing culture.

Thanks to the Maemo community for a truly open platform.


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