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mrojas 2009-11-11 23:47

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 373035)
Yes, phones may cost more than $500 in the long-run, but I'm talking about marketing psychology, visible advertised sub $200 price-points etc.

Well, if the consumer is stupid enough to be deceived by that...

Laughing Man 2009-11-12 00:00

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 373040)
Well, if the consumer is stupid enough to be deceived by that...

There's a reason why some psychologists go into that field. =P It pays well.

mullf 2009-11-12 00:47

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0xyfl00d3r (Post 372797)
Portrait comin soon
mms comin soon!

Fixed in Fremantle. :-X

Thor 2009-11-12 01:11

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 373016)
Again, if we get portrait texting and browsing, almost everyone will be happy and the others will never ever be happy- regardless.

I suggest they focus on those two points and everything else will be gravy :)

I agree, but would include email in that too as it's similar in usage to SMS.

I would also say messenger services like MSN, Yahoo, Skype etc but that may be dependent on the application maker allowing it, but it would require Nokia to give access to portrait T9 or QWERTY keyboards that would be available in SMS messaging and Web Browsing in any event.

DaveP1 2009-11-12 03:32

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Frankly, I am surprised by the outrage at a generally positive article whose main objections could have been taken directly from threads on this forum. The omission of MMS and portrait mode seem to indicate a lack of knowledge or a lack of concern as to how the majority of consumers use their phones and what the expect from a top of the line phone. Given the five step program, I suspect the latter.

imokruok 2009-11-12 03:40

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
I guess it depends on what your friends use. I have never sent an MMS. Not once. If I want to send someone something, it's sent as an e-mail attachment, since pretty much everyone I know gets their email pushed to their phone.

Also, the App store is not a necessity when you have an open platform. No doubt, it's VERY convenient, but when you can download anything to your phone it's less of a concern where it comes from.

matthewcc 2009-11-12 03:41

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveP1 (Post 373183)
Frankly, I am surprised by the outrage at a generally positive article whose main objections could have been taken directly from threads on this forum. The omission of MMS and portrait mode seem to indicate a lack of knowledge or a lack of concern as to how the majority of consumers use their phones and what the expect from a top of the line phone. Given the five step program, I suspect the latter.

I posted the article because I agreed with it. The issues are glaring, and the is soooooo much potential. The fixes are simple - they are software fixes, which are FAR quicker than hardware. The big issues are I see in the US are:
  • Portrait - Software Update
  • MMS - Software Update
  • Price - TMO has a SIM only plan now
  • Apps - It is a new os so it will take time, but we have Qt which makes it quicker.

Venomrush 2009-11-12 04:09

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
I think we should be moving forward and away from MMS.

Reasons:

1. N900 has 5meg camera
2. MMS limits 350kb per message
3. N900 requires software to compress image down to MMS size
4. Waste of resource to develop this functionality when the N900 can take advantage of the 3G & HSPDA network to upload high quality photos, link can be sent through message or social networking sites.
5. In order to see the MMS, the other person would need an MMS compatible phone
6. Not a lot of demand for MMS nowdays to be honest, users take the photos with the camera on their phone (N900) they prefer to go home and upload it on the net (Facebook, twitter etc) rather than sending an MMS to a dozen of contacts.

DannStarr 2009-11-12 04:55

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
I think we should be moving forward and away from MMS.

Reasons:

1. N900 has 5meg camera
2. MMS limits 350kb per message
3. N900 requires software to compress image down to MMS size
4. Waste of resource to develop this functionality when the N900 can take advantage of the 3G & HSPDA network to upload high quality photos, link can be sent through message or social networking sites.
5. In order to see the MMS, the other person would need an MMS compatible phone
6. Not a lot of demand for MMS nowdays to be honest, users take the photos with the camera on their phone (N900) they prefer to go home and upload it on the net (Facebook, twitter etc) rather than sending an MMS to a dozen of contacts.


X 2 - I don't understand why it's a bad thing that mms is left out

ohwut 2009-11-12 05:33

Re: PCWorld Article: Nokia N900: Hot and Not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 373200)
I think we should be moving forward and away from MMS.

Reasons:

1. N900 has 5meg camera
2. MMS limits 350kb per message
3. N900 requires software to compress image down to MMS size
4. Waste of resource to develop this functionality when the N900 can take advantage of the 3G & HSPDA network to upload high quality photos, link can be sent through message or social networking sites.
5. In order to see the MMS, the other person would need an MMS compatible phone
6. Not a lot of demand for MMS nowdays to be honest, users take the photos with the camera on their phone (N900) they prefer to go home and upload it on the net (Facebook, twitter etc) rather than sending an MMS to a dozen of contacts.

Sure moving away from MMS is fine, as soon as 90% of phones can receive eMail it's great. The issues is some people don't use Social networking either, I'm a well paid pro photographer and I only have 1 picture on my Facebook(which wasn't taken with a phone). The smartphone market share is still below 40% penetration, there's still a large majority of people who can't send/receive email from a phone, but the money is on them being able to get a MMS, and if they can't then whatever they can view it online later.

The idea isn't that it's useless, it's that it should be a standard feature, I remember buying my new BMW, it didn't have an oil Dipstick, in the modern age you don't need one because it has an electronic one, but it's still nice to have one under the hood just in case.


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