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Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 421472)

If you want more apps you can give a hand in Extras-testing: http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing

But that has the same problem. Even trying to get an app promoted into extras-testing takes forever. http://maemo.org/packages is dog slow...

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

Build server has been out for 14+ hours.

No one has posted anywhere that I can see that they are even aware of the outage.

Apparently it's not a 24/7/365 setup...

Really shoots the weekend when you are hoping to get things built. It creates distractions, mis-directed energy and de-motivating frustration.

A couple days ago, before the current outage, I had a package built. I went to the page to get it into -testing and it just sat there with a spinning cursor. I went to downtown central Buenos Aires, in rush hour, had a meeting, came back (still rush hour) and the thing was *still* spinning. Conclusion?

The servers are slower than a traffic jam in Buenos Aires.

Gah.

-Jeff

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

Apparently Nokia admins post updates to this obscure channel:

http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by jebba (Post 435268)

Apparently Nokia admins post updates to this obscure channel:

http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/

That's not a obscure channel, the channel exist for some time now and was properly advertised, can be reached from the wiki front page, and is linked to the monthly sprint tasks assigned to the maemo.org team.
For e.g: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/December_09

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 435299)

It's not linked on the front wiki page. The *only* place it's linked to from the wiki is the sprint page, buried at the bottom.

Is that "properly advertised"?

Have you seen how much investigation I've done of this issue? Can't you see I've obviously read *tons* of the wiki and other maemo docs and *finally* stumbled upon this because it was mentioned in IRC? I bet 99% of devs have no idea about the channel.

Even on that #maemork channel it says nothing about the current outage. It mentions some build server may be ready Monday. Great. So is the current outage a planned outage? No mention. Is he even aware of the current outage?

Regardless, the point is that we waste our time on this **** instead of actually packaging applications.

-Jeff

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 435299)

There's a link to current month's sprint on the Maemo.org Sprints front page but it points to August sprint -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_sprints.

I tried editing it but apparently couldn't...

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by jebba (Post 435312)

It's not linked on the front wiki page. The *only* place it's linked to from the wiki is the sprint page, buried at the bottom.

As I said this channel is associate with the sprint work, so try under "hot topics", third link. Don't have too much expectations about the things posted there, because they're mostly related to the tasks for each spring and some BAU work.

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Originally Posted by jebba (Post 435312)

Have you seen how much investigation I've done of this issue? Can't you see I've obviously read *tons* of the wiki and other maemo docs and *finally* stumbled upon this because it was mentioned in IRC? I bet 99% of devs have no idea about the channel.

Well, for the devs that joined the community a month or two ago, you might be right, but you know the community is very big and we have a lot of things, don't expect to learn everything in a few weeks, and we can't put everything that we have in the front page of maemo.org.

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Originally Posted by jebba (Post 435312)

Even on that #maemork channel it says nothing about the current outage. It mentions some build server may be ready Monday. Great. So is the current outage a planned outage? No mention. Is he even aware of the current outage?

This channel is not intended to announce these kind of things, normally those announcements happen in the MLs, but your're right they are missing a lot in the last weeks, but I've to warning you that this is a free service offer to the community, and as you know we're getting new servers (again for free), so expect outage in the next days.

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by DrWilken (Post 435320)

In the front page: Hot topics -> Current Sprint

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

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Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 435330)

...and as you know we're getting new servers (again for free), so expect outage in the next days.

Folks! You've heard it here: just look for comment twenty-seven in a thread linked from the front page of maemo.org linked to talk.maemo.org linked to applications forum to find out about the outage in the "next days"! Everything can't be posted to the front page, you see.

Is there any more info you can point to about this outage? If you know something about it, why not post it to the -devel mailing list or something reasonable?

Also this "for free" thing is a bit disingenuous. That's like Red Hat saying to the Fedora community "hey, you're getting this for free STFU".... I mean, this is greatly in Nokia's interest--they aren't being Mother Teresa here...

-Jeff

Re: Want more apps? Vote for this bug

Woo hoo!

The builder is running again. :)