Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

/me begins council impeachment proceedings...

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

nwerneck, I can somewhat sympathise with you but I don't agree with your core argument that this forum is now dead for n800 owners.

I've always been behind the curve here.
I got a 770 when everyone was gushing about their shiny new n800s.
I got a n800 when everyone was waxing lyrical about their cool new n810s etc***.

So even though I've always been late to the party I've still found the forum very useful both in old, informative threads and also the willingness of other members to help and discuss "old" issues.

I don't feel a need to look anywhere else for an n800 forum.








***On the plus side the price I paid for my devices was only a fraction of what early adopters paid for theirs :D.

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

I hope you are right. To me the forum seems to have a lot of "noise" about N900 on it. I am not knocking N900 (I read many of the N900 posts). The forum reminds me of my lawn when I plant new grass seeds...looks good but it will look better when I get the weeds out!! :D

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

It sounds like some of you are hoping for that.
I just don't understand why ?

I've not owned the older tablets, since I've always been a "one device" kind of guy, so I'm new to this forum too. But I've felt welcome here, received good advices, and in return tried to integrate and be helpful too.

Sure, there are a lot of repeating threads, and a lot of "noobs", but I see that as a positive thing, as it means that the Nokia tablets are gaining popularity, a thing a thought all of you old timers would want and appreciate..

Sure, it can feel like "your" forum is being invaded by strangers, but that's how communities work. They grow and evolve, and we need the experienced users, to help steer the direction.

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

i guess what we are seeing rightnow is a kind of "usenet september", tho i hope it wont turn into a "september that never ended".

thing is that there are a lot of people out there that wrote of the earlier maemo running products as they where not phones. I swear, there seems to be people in this word that grabs the most expensive smartphones on the highest subsidized plan just to show off but that will move on ones their binding runs out and the next eyecatcher comes around...

a non-phone pocket device is a geek thing. a phone on the other hand is a "style" thing.

me, bitter, not unlikely...

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

btw, i wonder if not some annoyance with the threads is that one is pretty much back to square one in the knowledge department.

very little from earlier devices and maemo versions seem to apply, and unless one is planing to get one (i wrote ot the community offer ones i heard about the one week guarantee) there is not much point reading them...

now if nokia would launch a non-phone version...

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

To clarify my novelty statement: I think the N900 novelty will wear off, and a lot of the "noise" will subside. I'm already seeing people asking more of the usual Maemo questions again ("How do I get sshfs running?") and there already seems to be a lot less of the whinging and moaning from the smartphone users going on.

I really hope it does get better.

And as for the "incompatibility" questions... again, what specifically are you referring to? Is it the fact that the N900 has hardware features that the N8x0 doesn't have? Or are there apps that you wish you had for the N8x0 that are only found on the N900 (that aren't hardware dependent)?

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

@nwerneck and like-minded N8x0 users:

Please see my post #1 about a way to save this forum for N800 and N810 users: If you think N800, N810 and Diablo need Their Own Forum; or something like that ... ... and please take the trouble to register for a maemo.org (or garage.maemo.org) log-in so that you can participate in the Brainstorm about maintaining the viability of this forum for N8x0 users.

I believe that my Solution #1 in that Brainstorm can save this forum for us if it is implemented soon, that is, before too many more of us just give up and stop coming here.

The idea behind Solution #1 is (primarily) to change Talk on this forum so that we could go through New Posts and see only those threads that have new posts that are relevant to us as Diablo (N810, N800, and 770) users. To better understand how that solution could help, and how easy it ought to be to implement, please see my posts #5 and #15 and #17.

Re: Complaint of the week: I have a N800 and I am not dead yet
 

I undertood that by “novelty” you mean discussions about price, availability and “oh, it shines!” I am certainly eager to see that ending. But someone might understand you are talking about a more general and sophisticated feeling of excitement with the device and its possibilities. I have not lost this feeling with my own N800 yet... So for those who might have gotten the impression we are talking about people losing their interest for their devices, rest assured we believe this is impossible :) (I hope I am talking for qole here...)

That sentence was music to my ears. :D


Not to mention users from older devices! ;)

Thank you so much for this high quality question!

I mean by no means hardware-related incompatibilities. I have lived with the lack of keyboard and GPS so far, and I can sure accept that my N800 will not start making calls even if I managed to run Maemo 5 in it.

I can also live with the fact that some programs will be just too heavy to run in a less powerful processor. When I run GIMP on my Pentium 3 I don't whine about it being sluggish, I just feel grateful for having been able to try at all. And I feel good when I notice, for example, that I can still update the GIMP in this old machine of mine and use the new Lanczos scaling algorithm instead of just cubic...

I am not looking for a strictly-N8x0 forum. What I want is to see threads that are relevant to me. We must exercise what exists in common in all our devices.

There are small problems in Diablo that I bet N900 users will also have. We must make sure we will all work together to solve them... More users = more contributions and more people benefiting from contributions.

The whole concept that “Maemo 5 is a new version that will not run in N8x0” sounds alien to my Linux ears. It should have been “Maemo 5 will come with a fancy desktop that N8x0 users should ignore.” It's a pity that to show that we must have all the work of building Mer...

Before finishing: I am very happy with all the feedback. The forum is alive and kicking afterall! ;)