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penguinbait 2007-01-11 22:35

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Maemo Mapper works on 2007 OS right, has anyone besides me got it working? Can anyone else confirm the no red track in MM, or is it just me?

midiwall 2007-01-11 22:59

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 29035)
Maemo Mapper works on 2007 OS right, has anyone besides me got it working?

Not I... I'm stuck in the land of looking for the missing bluetooth library.

rcull had said:

Installing btxfer from app catalogue fixes this. ls in /usr/lib shows both versions 1 and 2 of the bluetooth libs.
But it's unclear as to what he was talking about this fixing. btxfer needs the missing bluetooth lib. (which is something that alex mentioned).

I'm wandering the maemo repository but don't see anything there.

gnuite 2007-01-11 23:08

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
All,

I appreciate your many kind words regarding the quality and usefulness of Maemo Mapper. What started as a quest to optimize GPS Drive turned into a neat little maemo application, and it thrills me to no end that others have been able to make use of it.

I have received messages from multiple sources in the past 24 hours (likely spurred by this thread) to the effect that Nokia is or was probably planning to get me an n800 (for free, or at a discount). I have received nothing official yet (no package or email), but maybe it's in the works. If they send a free one, I'll certainly use it to test Maemo Mapper on it.

As for if they offer just a discount... Well, I'll be honest. As of yesterday, if they had offered me a discount (even 75%), I would not have considered it. It's not that I can't afford it. I just don't need an n800 (my 770 is sufficient), and I don't want to spend money on something I don't need. I have certainly been vocal about my insistence on sticking with the 770.

Having read through this thread, though, it is clear that there is demand for Maemo Mapper on the n800. And given that many of you are offering to donate the money needed to cover the expense of acquiring an n800 (and one of you even already has!), I feel that the least I can do is provide to you sufficient support for Maemo Mapper on the n800. And to do that, I'll need to test the application on the actual device.

So yes, if they offer me a discount on the n800, I will eat my pride and cough up their blood money.

As a related side note, I want to emphasize that it's not the hardware refresh that bothers me. Users were complaining about the low CPU and RAM, so it makes sense for Nokia to respond to those complaints. What bothers me is the new OS 2007 and its potential to leave the 770 out in the cold.

I have no (technical) problem with the new CPU, the new RAM, the new chrome style, the new button/port layout, and even the second memory expansion slot. None of these things affect the software, and there is no reason that they necessitated upgrading the operating system in a way that made it incompatible with the 770. When developers start developing exclusively for the n800, 770 users are going to miss out on those new applications if they aren't compatbile with the 770.

If Nokia releases OS 2007 (or some variant based on the same code base) for the 770 (and they still might do so) in such a way that applications can work more-or-less seamlessly between the two pieces of hardware (barring differences in specific hardware usage, like the camera), and if they continue to address the concerns that 770 users have, then I'll have no complaint. Until then, I will continue to worry.

Maybe, between testing Maemo Mapper on OS 2007, I can try and get OS 2006 to run on the n800. Considering the hearsay regarding how slow OS 2007 would run on the 770, and also considering that OS 2007 on the n800 seems to run at an acceptable speed, the correlary then is that OS 2006 would have to run much faster on an n800, right? Of course, the camera might not be usable, but I don't need or want that anyway - all I want are the CPU, RAM, and expansion slot upgrades.

Anyway, again, thank you all for your support in trying to get me an n800. If possible, I will use that support to provide the same Maemo Mapper experience on the n800 platform as I did (and will always continue to do) on the 770 platform.

gnuite 2007-01-11 23:14

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frethop (Post 28981)
My N800 is (supposedly) shipping as I write this. MM is the #1 app I use.

Where can I donate?

-F

On the Maemo Mapper "home" page (linked from Maemo Mapper's Garage page), there is a graphical button labeled "Make a Donation."

http://www.gnuite.com/nokia770/maemo-mapper/

Thanks! :)

alexjlee 2007-01-11 23:21

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by midiwall (Post 29039)
I'm wandering the maemo repository but don't see anything there.


the missing library is here..... (took some finding!)
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae.../b/bluez-libs/

midiwall 2007-01-11 23:42

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alexjlee (Post 29043)
the missing library is here..... (took some finding!)
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae.../b/bluez-libs/

Wow... nice wandering! THANK YOU!


Okay, so now you folks get to see my newbie colors in terms of understanding the backend of installing packages. I figured I could:
  • download "libbluetooth1_2.25-cvs20060428_armel.deb" to the internal SD
  • Use AppManager's "Install From File"
...but I get "Incompatible Application Package".

I can see the details of the package, so I know AM is reading it..

penguinbait 2007-01-11 23:52

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
I am still confused why my maemo-mapper on n800 is working? I did not upgrade my bluethooth library?

penguinbait 2007-01-12 00:03

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
OK so maybe I lied. It must have installed it automagically using "aptget install ssh" There were like 5 things it installed along with ssh , I had a full sources.list from 770 in place? It does not leave a track behind me when I drive is it just me or is there a setting to turn that on?

alexjlee 2007-01-12 00:10

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Quote:

...but I get "Incompatible Application Package".
wow, you're right. install by file is failing. bummer.
The version i have on my 800 is reporting itself as:

$ apt-cache show libbluetooth1

Filename: pool/maemo2.0/free/b/bluez-libs/libbluetooth1_2.25-cvs20060428_armel.deb


I guess that it'll only install via the command line( ie, as part of another install) and not the installer directly...

gnuite 2007-01-12 00:25

Re: Maemo Mapper + n800/OS2007 = *kaboom*
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 29047)
OK so maybe I lied. It must have installed it automagically using "aptget install ssh" There were like 5 things it installed along with ssh , I had a full sources.list from 770 in place? It does not leave a track behind me when I drive is it just me or is there a setting to turn that on?

Yes, there are checkbox menu items in the View menu - enable "Track". The "Escape" hardware key also can show/hide the track and/or route.


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