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evilfir 2010-02-18 08:11

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
Did anyone ever stop to think that maemo 6/harmattan might not be da **** ? It could just be a dumbed down version for more lightweight phones than the n900.

harrihakulinen 2010-02-18 08:13

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
However, there is one pretty clear message that seems deserve some repetition:

N900 is practically the first openly available mobile device that can run MeeGo applications. this topic is dicussed by qgill at

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=87

"
- As soon as Qt 4.6 gets officially supported in Maemo 5, the building blocks to be API compatible with MeeGo will be there.

Translation to end users: getting MeeGo apps to run on top of Maemo 5 shouldn't be a rocket science and maybe they just work. MeeGo will attract more developers to this API = more apps = more joy for N900 users."

Br,
//Harri

Quote:

Originally Posted by el3ctronick (Post 533598)
so, n900 was actually an expirement that costed me and other hundreds of people around 600euros each?
i do hope i ll see n900 running meego(or maemo6), although if this happens, n900 will be the first nokia device OS upgradeable..
i have been a nokia customer since 1997, recently i got an iphone and i thought i should go back to my beloved nokia.now official replacement of OS and device coming after 2months of release of the device....


daperl 2010-02-18 08:17

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biterror (Post 533738)
I have been using Palm products for several years and one of the many benefits of PalmOS is that there are thousands and thousands of applications for it. If N900 is the only device of its kind (and even abandoned by Nokia), it will never get even close to other platforms. And hardware without good software is dead hardware.

I'm sorry, but these three sentences have nothing meaningful to do with each other. I'm not sure they have any meaning at all.

el3ctronick 2010-02-18 09:01

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrihakulinen (Post 533772)
However, there is one pretty clear message that seems deserve some repetition:

N900 is practically the first openly available mobile device that can run MeeGo applications. this topic is dicussed by qgill at

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=87

"
- As soon as Qt 4.6 gets officially supported in Maemo 5, the building blocks to be API compatible with MeeGo will be there.

Translation to end users: getting MeeGo apps to run on top of Maemo 5 shouldn't be a rocket science and maybe they just work. MeeGo will attract more developers to this API = more apps = more joy for N900 users."

Br,
//Harri

i really wish you are right, i love N900, my main concern is the support of applications AND fixing the 850 bugs the phone has now. i am afraid that they have started developing the new OS and they wont give attention to maemo5 problems....from my experience with previous nokia devices, discontinued phones receive less attention...anyway, i hope i am a big whiner and all of my frustration is a stupid reaction.

johnel 2010-02-18 09:11

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
I was a Palm man for a few years.

I originally bought the Palm m505 (colour screen, sd/mmc card, 8mb of memory) and the os version was 4.0. I installed dozens of applications and even bought a couple too (mobi-office).

A couple of years later I bought a Palm T3 (larger colour screen, sd/mmc card, 64mb of memory) and the os version was 5.2.1.
Thankfully the T3 was backward-compatible and I could still use my collection of software for it.

There was a point to this post.....
...Ah yes.

Many of the software titles available for my T3 were also available for the older version of the OS (4.0).
I was down to the developers to ensure the applications were available for both versions of the OS.

Now if Nokia/MeeGo/Maemo 6/etc ensure the next OS is flexible enough to install on a maemo5-based device then great - everyone wins in a major way.

If we discover that the next version of maemo will never run on the n900 then it will be up to the application developers to decide to release for both platforms. Potentially a crappy scenario but unlikely to happen.

The next update of maemo5 will include the QT libraries - this is essentially the core of maemo 6/MeeGo/WhoCares platform.

Developing for both platforms (maemo5 & "maemo 6") suddenly got a lot easier.

Even if the n900 never gets the next version of maemo then it still a great computer/phone. I'm sure developers will ensure that thier software runs on both platforms - it's in thier best interests to expose thier software to a wide audience.

Talking about the n900 as the only maemo5 device is a moot point and the "debate" of upgrading the n900 to the next version has been done to death.

At the moment we have many options available to us and that is a "good thing"(tm).

If Nokia themselves do not port the next version of the maemo os to the n900 then someone else will - it's open source.

Can people please stop moaning about maemo5 and the n900?

The n900 has a very long and useful life ahead of it. If you are still not happy then sell you n900 and get an iPhone instead. Then Apple can be responsible for your device instead of you.

el3ctronick 2010-02-18 09:55

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
i was just expecting not to be the mouse of nokia labs..thats all..i love my n900....but this is kinda disappointing guys

barc0de 2010-02-18 10:14

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
Correct me if I m wrong, but I think it is natural that Nokia's future "mobile computers" will be based on the portable x86 architecture rather than OMAP.

The fact that nothing has been announced about the next Nokia mobile computer, in terms of specifications, might mean that they're still designing it. If that's the case I would expect the n900 to live and sell for more than one year from now..which is quite good for this kind of phones. I remember how bullocked I felt when SE released the P900 a year after I got my SE P800 =)

qwazix 2010-02-18 10:34

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
It's not about upgrading... It's about user and developer base. We know close to nothing about application compatibility with the new platform. Even the time I consumed to learn how to use the "advanced" features of this device seems now futile. The one wm phone I had was ultimate crap, but now I see other peoples' htc's and I KNOW the very depths of them. I mean now, if a developer wants to make an app, will he go for the maemo meego whatever platform?
Last year it seemed the way to go was s60v5. I got a 5800, I gathered all my favorite apps. learned to hack and customize it, and then there they announce a brand new promising platform that I thought maybe it is worth the extra time to migrate to. Now it seems we have to move all over again. And the bad thing is we are not sure it's here to stay. Just look at how many platforms Nokia has changed on the high-end communicator-tablet segment.
Symbian UIQ (nokia 6708) - abandoned
Series 80 (9xxx communicators) - abandoned
Series 90 (Nokia 7710) - merged with S60 (in effect abandoned)
S60v3 (E90) - no new communicator as of now
S60v5 (5800XM, N97)
OS200x (I see it as a different platform as there is very limited application compatibility with M5)
Maemo 5 (N900) - abandoned? hope the merger with moblin does not end up like S90 and S60
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real estate for sale Pattaya

maxximuscool 2010-02-18 10:36

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
I think the author of this thread should dubbed the title of the thread to: "N900 the last Maemo"

barc0de 2010-02-18 10:43

Re: N900-the only Maemo5 device
 
Yes, all this drama would also make a nice movie :P


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