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slender 2010-02-22 10:44
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaem (Post 540825)
Almost everyone I show my N900 to expects it to be a capacitive screen, even if they don't know it's called that - I can tell from how they try to use it. As soon as I say that it's "different than the iPhone", and give them the one-sentence dumbed-down explanation of the difference in technologies, they get it almost right away.
Yes. Same thing here. I have couple of times gave my phone for test use for some of my friends and tried not to say anything (because that's the right way to test stuff :D) But after looking their usage for a while I have to tell them to use fingernail.

planetf1 2010-02-22 14:20
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaem (Post 540825)
Unfortunately, that seems to be a lot of people, at least in my experience. Almost everyone I show my N900 to expects it to be a capacitive screen, even if they don't know it's called that - I can tell from how they try to use it. As soon as I say that it's "different than the iPhone",.
When my daughter (13) was looking for a phone she specifically said she didn't want a capacitive screen since
- she wanted to be able to use it with gloves
- it was less accurate

Took me back, but truth in both of those.

Ultimately just like the devices the screens are very different, not so much one better than the other, just different and more appropriate to particular circumstances.

felbutss 2010-02-22 14:46
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaem (Post 540825)
Unfortunately, that seems to be a lot of people, at least in my experience. Almost everyone I show my N900 to expects it to be a capacitive screen, even if they don't know it's called that - I can tell from how they try to use it. As soon as I say that it's "different than the iPhone", and give them the one-sentence dumbed-down explanation of the difference in technologies, they get it almost right away. For that matter, look at all the comments here on t.m.o. and elsewhere, saying that the touch panel "stinks" solely because it's not what they're used to (e.g. the iPhone). I'm not saying that this is a valid design reason not to use this feature, but just that people's expectations seem to be pretty specific in this area; for a lot of people, the iPhone was where they first saw multi-touch, and their whole concept of the technology is based on it.
I'm not arguing with you, but I thought I should point that out, as silly as it is.
omg lol everyone that trys to use my phone treats it like a iphone. i always tell them push hardder as the screen is not responding. its so easy but maybe this is what we are used to. my girlfriend cant get used to me screen as she is a heavy iphone user.



i haven't got a problem with the n900's screen but. nokia this your fault for letting apple do this to you lol apple brainwashed public we have lol

felbutss 2010-02-22 14:51
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
by the way like i said. fake multitouch.
all we need it right now is for an image gallery app. zooming in pictures does not feel natural on the n900. not even double tap option. its bad. want fake multitouch. would also be cool :D. cant someone finish one of the few projects started but never finished?????????

look at this for example!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZSc0bvlgcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dC2qpDsgZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDJPBnSv0wc

This guy made these apps in flash with fake multitouch lol mmaann hes good. CAN SOMEONE TEST IF THE FLASH FILES WORK ON THE N900?? WE COULD USE THIS

maxximuscool 2010-02-22 20:10
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
Lol happened to me too. Gave the phone to my colleagues to test and he touch it so lightly like an iphone (he an iphone user). I have to tell him to don't be afraid to press harder.

felbutss 2010-02-24 02:47
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by felbutss (Post 541153)
by the way like i said. fake multitouch.
all we need it right now is for an image gallery app. zooming in pictures does not feel natural on the n900. not even double tap option. its bad. want fake multitouch. would also be cool :D. cant someone finish one of the few projects started but never finished?????????

look at this for example!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZSc0bvlgcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dC2qpDsgZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDJPBnSv0wc

This guy made these apps in flash with fake multitouch lol mmaann hes good. CAN SOMEONE TEST IF THE FLASH FILES WORK ON THE N900?? WE COULD USE THIS
did anyone have a look at my last post???????? do you think its possible???

qwazix 2010-08-28 14:59
Re: N900 Pinch Zoom Work around
 
I can see that mypaint recognises not only pressure but width of touch. Maybe we could use that info for fake multitouch (a small touch area that expands => pinch, a wide touch area that moves => two finger drag)

Also, I don't know how deep access we have to the hardware, but my understanding is that the resistive screen gives out an x,y for the touch

If I touch two points simultaneously eg 0,5 and 7,10 the wires that get shorted would be the 0 and 7 on the x axis and the 5 and 10 on the y axis. So the hardware can't possibly distinguish between my touch and the equivalent of 0,10 and 7,5.

So we can't move two balls arbitrarily on the screen with this info, but the info is absolutely enough for pinch, rotate, two finger drag etc...

multitouch on synaptics touchpad for example is just one set of coordinates and a seperate variable stating the number of fingers.

Also multitouch on the nexus one and other htc phones is not full (check out android app multitouch pong, it clearly states which devices and why) By the way, with the two x, and two y's (e.g. the four point set) even multitouch pong could be done on the N900. The 'fakeness' of the implementation would be baringly noticeable.

Finally maybe the pressure sensitivity/area data could be used for user interaction alternatively: heavy press and light press accounting for different interactions
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