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bac522 2007-02-28 14:40

Re: The great offline issue
 
I've used Avantgo on my pocketPC that does a great job of providing off line content. I did a search on google for Avantgo Linux and come up with this site, http://quark.humbug.org.au/publicati...s/avantgo.html but it looks like the source code link is bad. I'm sure with a little bit of googling one could find the source code. Wonder if this could be built to work on the Nokia's?

RogerS 2007-03-07 12:42

Re: The Daily Pluck (what your looking for.)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simonvc (Post 35985)
Hi, I wrote a distiller that pulls down content (rss feeds + weather + news sites) and distils it into pdb format.

You can get it at http://simonvc.googlepages.com/thedailypluck

I heard it has some problems with the N800 (but works on my N770)

Good Luck
Simon

Fantastic!

I'll try it with both the N800 and the 770.

For all us offline-on-the-train and FBReader readers, thanks!

Roger

TA-t3 2007-03-07 13:21

Re: The great offline issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bac522 (Post 37024)
I've used Avantgo on my pocketPC that does a great job of providing off line content. I did a search on google for Avantgo Linux and come up with this site, http://quark.humbug.org.au/publicati...s/avantgo.html but it looks like the source code link is bad. I'm sure with a little bit of googling one could find the source code. Wonder if this could be built to work on the Nokia's?

I use Avantgo on my Palm. The links on that page points to an old version (3.3) of AvantGo for Palm, there are newer versions on avantgo.com. The malsync code is for Linux, the link is bad, but 2.2.0 is out there somewhere. However, this is not Avantgo for Linux, it' just a conduit handler that downloads the data from sync.avantgo.com and pushes it to the Avantgo application on the Palm, which handles the rest. So it's not really an avantgo solution for Linux, it's a replacement for when you use Linux and not Windows to hotsync. (And I do neither, as newer versions of Avantgo can update directly from sync.avantgo.com through BT or Wi-Fi networking.)
I too would like to have Avantgo on the Nokia Internet Tablet, it would be a great application for a device with that screen and networking speed (for the synchronization part).

(As a sidenote, I've always wanted to take a better look at that malsync code to see if it would be possible to make it into a two-stage downloader; e.g. either store the data directly into a .pdb file that could later be pushed to the Palm, or, if not, save the data in some other way so that the malsync->palm interaction could happen later. I can't see why this wouldn't also work on the N800. Particularly with the .pdb file push this would be great to get running on the N800, because it could directly push the file through BT to the Palm with no additional coding (unlike with hotsync, which would need the pilot-link software to be ported too). This could be useful if you're without wi-fi on the PDA (could be made to work with Win PDAs too, presumably.))

w14 2007-03-07 13:30

Re: The great offline issue
 
The Daily Pluck seems good, but it doesn't allow access to websites that require authetication, for example. (any plans?)

I use Sunrise, which was formerly called JPluck. There's a howto for Ubuntu at http://www.howtoforge.com/comment/reply/1190. It works on Windows as well. Download details are in the Ubuntu howto.

There's a great tutorial here:

http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/SunriseXP_tutorial

Mike.

ptman 2007-03-14 16:47

Re: The great offline issue
 
In case someone is interested, I just put out a first public release of maemo-google-reader. You can get it from my home page http://paul.totterman.name/maemo.html . Please give me some feedback. I know that it's a terminal based program and I would like to make it graphical, but I couldn't find a nice html rendering widget that was accessible from python. libgtkhtml didn't have python bindings available for maemo.

idomcfly 2007-03-14 17:07

Re: The great offline issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ptman (Post 39093)
In case someone is interested, I just put out a first public release of maemo-google-reader. You can get it from my home page http://paul.totterman.name/maemo.html . Please give me some feedback. I know that it's a terminal based program and I would like to make it graphical, but I couldn't find a nice html rendering widget that was accessible from python. libgtkhtml didn't have python bindings available for maemo.

http://www.pygtk.org/pygtkmozembed/index.html
http://www.fcoutant.freesurf.fr/python-gtkhtml.html

I don't know if they are available on maemo though

ptman 2007-03-14 17:16

Re: The great offline issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by idomcfly (Post 39096)
I don't know if they are available on maemo though

They're not, at least in any repository I searched. Also that gtkhtml-python-binding is for gtk+-1.2 which is so outdated that it's not even funny.

ragnar 2007-04-02 09:54

Re: The great offline issue
 
This article just popped up:

http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/3...-doesnt-matter

bergie 2007-04-02 18:42

Re: The great offline issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ragnar (Post 42383)

I wrote some N800-related comments about this in my blog:

http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/the_old_of...ne_debate.html

TA-t3 2007-04-03 11:17

Re: The great offline issue
 
I read that article too, and I think the comments were better than the article.. :)

There's a reason for wi-fi hotspots being called "hotspots".. they're short-range islands in an ocean of non-connectivity. Phone connection is fine as far as it goes, and I use it often, but it doesn't go that far: GPRS, at least, is not wideband, and it's costly. And as soon as you go outside your own country (as many people do all the time in Europe) you'll find that a) it's insanely expensive, and b) your provider may not even have roaming deals for GPRS on the local carrier you happen to connect to.

And even where you're reasonably well-covered with wi-fi hotspots, if you're moving (in a bus, on a train, in a tram) you will want to quickly download or synch to your mobile device while waiting for the transport, then read off-line while on board. (This is of course a totally alien concept for an American, where either you're driving a car and thus not working on your N800, or you're stationary.. ;))

I also read Bergie's blog comments.. on the issue of synching protocols, I was thinking that maybe something could be built on top of 'git', for those who are familiar with it.


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