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Texrat 2007-02-20 18:58
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
I was overjoyed to see this! Installation went VERY well for me-- I wish every 770/N800 app had such a process!

I especially like the full screen fading controls-- very, very nice design. My only gripe is that I have to use the arrow controls to navigate through library options instead of simply clicking them on the screen. Minor beef though. Overall, nicely done!

Aside to itkach: use the .install file on the main page. It sets the repository up for you perfectly.

mwiktowy 2007-02-20 18:59
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom T. (Post 35685)
Since there does not seem to be a way to create playlists in canola, how would one go about creating playlists FOR canola? Is there a recommended or compatible application for XP?
Playlists are extremely simple files.

It is simply a text file containing the paths to all the files you want to play ... one file per line.

You can use absolute paths (making it so that the playlist can be moved around) or relative to the location of the list (so if the playlist is in the same directory as the media files then it can just be a big list of the filenames you want to play with no paths).

The native media players on the Nokia ITs add a bunch of commented out stuff between each media file line and put the media files locations in URI format but will accept playlists in the more standard format.

There are playlist generators available for the NokITs. I can't comment on them since I have never used them. Redirecting find to a file via the command line does a pretty good job of making a playlist too :]

The note pad included with the NokITs isn't a good way to make playlists since it insists on saving your plain text as an html file. There are a few plain text editors available in the repositories.

Milhouse 2007-02-20 19:08
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by itkach (Post 35697)
I'm trying to install Canola on n800 following instructions at http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/help.html. It looks like repository
"http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository/bora" does not exist. There is "http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository/", but it doesn't seem to have anything for bora.
Why don't you just use the one-click install file? The help page would appear to be incorrect, this is the content of the one-click install file:

Code:
[install]
repo_name = Canola
repo_deb = deb http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository-beta2/770 mistral user
repo_deb_3 = deb http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/repository-beta2/bora bora user
package  = canola

itkach 2007-02-20 19:20
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
to Texrat, Milhouse
Thanks, .install worked fine. At first I didn't notice the "one click install for all devices" button, it's too green on green :) Providing incorrect installation instructions on the "Installing Canola" page, though, is still not a very good thing.

itkach 2007-02-20 20:18
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Well, Canola is definitely very cool, stylus-less navigation is very convenient. I have one complain though, about order in which songs appear in audio albums (Media Player has the same problem). The songs are sorted alphabetically by song name from the tag. In my files these names are not prefixed by number (file names are), so the resulting song order makes no sense whatsoever and completely ruins listening experience. I guess there are albums where this is not very important, but there are plenty where it is. Does anybody know if there's a workaround?

russ 2007-02-20 20:46
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Okay guys, can anyone help me get Canola installed? Before you ask: yes, I tried the install button on the official Canola website - I get the same error every time:

libgcrypt11
libgpg-error0

are missing.

I have read the install instructions on the Canola site and my N800 already has the 2 repositories mentioned added:

Nokia Catalogue
Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)

I have 2 other repositories in application manager - added I suspect because I installed xterm and the to do list app, these are:

GPE Calendar
maemo-hackers

I really do not know what else to try.

Any suggestions?

Milhouse 2007-02-20 21:44
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 35699)
My only gripe is that I have to use the arrow controls to navigate through library options instead of simply clicking them on the screen. Minor beef though. Overall, nicely done!
There may be a solution for this in the near future - from the Canola FAQ (3rd item):

Quote:
Q: Why can't I select any item in the list, only the one under the "focus" area?
A: Canola was built thinking not only of the tablet but also for non-touchscreen possibilities. Thus it was made from scratch to work also with simple remote controls and etc. Placing selection in all items required a lot more user visual feedback to be usable, so we chose this simpler way. In our usability tests multiple selection activated got users lost or feeling uncomfortable browsing their media. If you wanna be able to do it, and know how to set Gconf strings, check back often for we'll soon place here the command to allow it.

Tom T. 2007-02-20 23:42
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwiktowy (Post 35700)
Playlists are extremely simple files.

It is simply a text file containing the paths to all the files you want to play ... one file per line.

You can use absolute paths (making it so that the playlist can be moved around) or relative to the location of the list (so if the playlist is in the same directory as the media files then it can just be a big list of the filenames you want to play with no paths).

The native media players on the Nokia ITs add a bunch of commented out stuff between each media file line and put the media files locations in URI format but will accept playlists in the more standard format.

There are playlist generators available for the NokITs. I can't comment on them since I have never used them. Redirecting find to a file via the command line does a pretty good job of making a playlist too :]

The note pad included with the NokITs isn't a good way to make playlists since it insists on saving your plain text as an html file. There are a few plain text editors available in the repositories.
Not to mention making a playlist from a text editor is something of a pita. :D

Thanks - Found one on Maemo, I'll give that a try.

AndyTheSwede 2007-02-21 00:01
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by russ (Post 35741)
Okay guys, can anyone help me get Canola installed? Before you ask: yes, I tried the install button on the official Canola website - I get the same error every time:

libgcrypt11
libgpg-error0

are missing.

I have read the install instructions on the Canola site and my N800 already has the 2 repositories mentioned added:

Nokia Catalogue
Nokia Catalogue (3rd party software)

I have 2 other repositories in application manager - added I suspect because I installed xterm and the to do list app, these are:

GPE Calendar
maemo-hackers

I really do not know what else to try.

Any suggestions?
Okay, so I had a very similar problem. First I couldn't get Python 2.5 to install which drove me nuts and then I couldn't get Canola installed. Whether I need Python to run Canola I have no Idea. But still, It just popped up a dialog saying "Could not install xxxx". Extremely frustrated and after numerous installs, uninstalls and reboots, I downloaded "Nokia Internet Tablet software update wizard" and reinstalled N800 from scratch. All my old programs and settings got lost but with a little more "know how" about how the N800 works I got everything working pretty quick. I started installing Python 2.5 and then Canola and everything went super. No I only got the essential stuff installed on my N800. No more trouble for me :D.

Canola is great by the way and when you guys can get it working with different videocodecs so that it will play my movies, I'll send you a gift!!!

russ 2007-02-21 00:06
Re: Canola for the N800 (and the n770) is officially launched
 
thanks for the reply...seriously though: I have to re-install my N800 to get this to work?

That's not good news...

I don't understand why so many people are saying it all installed and worked fine for them.


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