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jnwi 2010-04-21 19:13

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 621334)
Sorry.. this is just a minor pet peeve of mine. I don't think it comes with root "out of the box".. you have install "an app for that" (although it's not really an "app" so much as a script that modifies the phone.. but anyway..) I would love for it to come with root "out of the box".. that would be epic.. but sadly - everything I've read said "no, install rootsh first."

I sort of understand your peeve about the terminology, but for all practical purposes it's the same thing. You use Nokia's own tools to do it - it's basically another setup step.

On a normal distro you'd install as root and then set up a daily user account. Here it's the reverse. Big deal, as long as it's official.

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 621389)
Who said you aren't?

Many people seem to think freedom of speech means others aren't allowed to be annoyed by their rants. It's disturbing.

mobiledivide 2010-04-21 19:14

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
If the N900 had been the same size as the N810 or *gasp* bigger (5 inch screen 1024 pixels), it would have raised the bar much more. The unfortunate thing was the shrinking to a smartphone sized device which causes it to be compared to smartphones and we can all agree that the phone functionality leaves some to be desired.

As a MID I have no doubt maemo 5 is the best current OS for that niche.

TylerD 2010-04-21 19:19

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by Flynx (Post 621416)
internet tablet > smartphone.

The N900 is an awesome internet tablet. But it is the first internet tablet to include cellphone functionality. Considering this is the first time Nokia tried to put a cellphone in a MID, the functionality doesn't quite replace phone-centric devices like the N95 yet. But I trust it will get better soon. Or maybe later. Eventually.

thnx buddy! Thats exactly what i'm saying.
so in conclusion:
the N900 is NOT a smartphone YET

rcarlos 2010-04-21 19:28

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by pyromaniac (Post 621323)
maybe maemo has not delivered out of the box what you expected .. but it definitely has delivered in the introduction of openness and community driven development in the field of mobile computing ..

agree with you abt the openness and community driven development....but isnt it the business model adopted by all OEMs today...certainly nokia isnt the initiator.

spare me for my ignorance, I'm always intrigued about openess particularly in software.Does openness means it sans commercial boundaries...for eg if you overclock the CPU and any issue arising after that, would nokia acknowledge to support the hardware assuming the openess of the platform supports tweaking the kernel.Ok..... it might be a core kernel level tweak but alternatively why is a disclaimer being run for all third party app installs.

the other interesting thing is nokia personnel boast on the same openness of the platform in upgrading to meego or maemo 6 but with a rider of dependancy on nokia's business decisions

the point is, the current business models of leveraging communities through SDK releases undermines any differences between an open and closed system.

correct me if i'm wrong

Vaskinn 2010-04-21 19:32

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by TylerD (Post 621430)
thnx buddy! Thats exactly what i'm saying.
so in conclusion:
the N900 is NOT a smartphone YET

I'd say it has the most "smart" of them all, but is a little lacking in the "phone". That is compared to the current competition, the phone functionality still beats all of the phones from a year or three back.

Texrat 2010-04-21 19:35

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
rcarlos, surely the sarcasm in fatalsaint's last post came through clearly... right?

Flynx 2010-04-21 19:37

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by TylerD (Post 621430)
thnx buddy! Thats exactly what i'm saying.
so in conclusion:
the N900 is NOT a smartphone YET

Maybe, but I'm saying it a little differently.

The N900 is already better (more capable) than any smartphone. But it doesn't have a one-handed smartphone UI, because its not a smartphone.

Since so many people seem to want to use the N900 as a smartphone replacement, I expect the user interface will get some additional smartphone-like features. But that would be taking a step backward.

fatalsaint 2010-04-21 19:37

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 621459)
rcarlos, surely the sarcasm in fatalsaint's last post came through clearly... right?

ssshhhhhshhshhshshshhshs

You're totally killing my mojo here... ;)

rcarlos 2010-04-21 19:40

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnwi (Post 621424)
I sort of understand your peeve about the terminology, but for all practical purposes it's the same thing. You use Nokia's own tools to do it - it's basically another setup step.

On a normal distro you'd install as root and then set up a daily user account. Here it's the reverse. Big deal, as long as it's official.



Many people seem to think freedom of speech means others aren't allowed to be annoyed by their rants. It's disturbing.

its also disturbing when people get annoyed abt hearing others disappointments in a public forum

rcarlos 2010-04-21 19:45

Re: Did maemo 5 really raise the bar?
 
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 621469)
ssshhhhhshhshhshshshhshs

You're totally killing my mojo here... ;)


fatalsaint....the thanks was for the sarcasm....and dont hype the mojo


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