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ivnvir 2010-06-07 13:48

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
no one got a solution yet?

MohammadAG 2010-06-08 00:35

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 703443)
Thanks. http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...r/src/launcher looks a good place to look, but it's beyond me I'm afraid.

I had a look at the source a week ago, but my C is a bit rusty so I dumped it and rm -rf'd the working directory.
But from what I understand it was added by intention (not one simple line)

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-06-08 06:40

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
mine is very somth

pelago 2010-06-08 09:34

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
I'm getting somewhere with researching (not fixing) this, I think.

The version of hildon-desktop in PR1.1.1 is 2.2.120-4. Source is at http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...op/trees/PR1_1. TheChangeLog for this version was last updated November 30 2009.

The version of hildon-desktop in PR1.2 is 2.2.135-2 (according to http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.2#Updated_packages). It's trickier to tell on gitorious but I think the source for this is at http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...ec6a7348073fd2. The ChangeLog for this version was last updated March 03 2010.

So we're looking for differences between November 30 2009 and March 03 2010.

Looking at the ChangeLog at http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...ster/ChangeLog and searching for "scroll", I see a couple of likely candidates between those dates, namely:

Code:

2010-02-02  Adam Endrodi  <adam.endrodi@blumsoft.eu>

        Increase decceleration of TidyFingerScroll because some users felt
        like in space.

2010-02-08  Adam Endrodi  <adam.endrodi@blumsoft.eu>

        * src/tidy/tidy-finger-scroll.c (tidy_finger_scroll_init):
          Tune the decceleration again.

Looking at the history of src/tidy/tidy-finger-scroll.c at http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...inger-scroll.c we find the two changes, namely http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...ode=sidebyside and http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...ode=sidebyside

It looks like the deceleration was previously 0.99 in PR1.1.1, then changed to 0.85 in an unreleased version, and now in PR1.2 it is 0.90.

If anyone (Matan?) has the ability to recompile the PR1.2 branch of hildon-desktop with that number tweaked higher, ideally put into gconf so it can be tweaked by the user without having to recompile, that would be great.

Stamm 2010-06-08 12:14

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nokix (Post 703276)
could they have done it on purpose? i've had my hands on an iphone for a little and now i feel the n900 scrolls similarly to how an iphone does (which i hate). perhaps the majority of people who did the online n900 survey said they like the current scrolling better?

Maybe. But I've tested today the iPad in a store and the scrolling in Safari was very much like the N900 menu in PR1.1. So it seems Apple has gone the other way...

Quote:

Looking at the history of src/tidy/tidy-finger-scroll.c at http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...inger-scroll.c we find the two changes, namely http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...ode=sidebyside and http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle...ode=sidebyside
Great find, pelago!
I'm a bit suprised the deceleration value is hardcoded and not included in transitions.ini...

Another thing that is strange is the deceleration in the browser and in drop-down listboxes is exactly like the App menu in PR1.1. It means users who felt like in space in the menu must surely still feel the same thing in other places...

maemomatic 2010-06-13 11:18

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
Hi,

Thanks for all the research you guys did!
Has anyone filed a bug for this, or is it something that you think the community would be in best position to improve?

I personally thought that the fast scrolling of the menu in PR1.1 was the best thing about the menu. It's true that now we can change position for our favourite apps, but if one has many, it's still inconvenient and inconsistent to scroll down.

Choice is always best - so a parameter to tweak this setting would be the best approach I think.

das_schlumpfie 2010-06-13 11:59

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
i second that, nokia is better in procrastinating than improving .

MohammadAG 2010-06-13 12:22

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
@ pelago that doesn't seem to be it, compiled HD with 0.85 but it's the same (to me at least).

Dave999 2010-06-13 12:27

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
Same thing in settings menu. Worst scrolling I've ever seen. :(

Hope PR 1.3 will fix this :D

pelago 2010-06-14 09:52

Re: scrolling application list is not as easy since 1.2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 713060)
@ pelago that doesn't seem to be it, compiled HD with 0.85 but it's the same (to me at least).

Oh dear, thanks for trying anyway. I haven't done any further investigation of the source, but it's all there on gitorious. Hopefully the relevant change can be found somewhere in amongst that code.

It might be worth compiling up the PR1.1.1 version of the code and running it on a PR1.2 device, just to make sure that that scrolls as expected. If it doesn't, then the change lies outside of hildon-desktop, and instead somewhere else on the device, e.g. in a shared library.


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