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slender 2010-06-15 10:17

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Spotfist,

Currently fixed bugs in internal next FW:
Link to bugzilla

slender 2010-06-15 10:21

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunwong (Post 715930)
Just to remark and point it out,

Complaining for false advertising of a bug-plagued "mobile computer", is NOT trolling. It is purely and simply telling the truth, no matter how much it disturbs or irritates to real fanboys.

But posting stuff like what is in this thread as offtopic on other threads or on wrong area is trolling no matter how it is true. IMO it just becomes trolling in certain framework.

And let me remind you that truth what you are talking about is subjective. There is no absolute truths when talking about end user experience.

Spotfist 2010-06-15 10:24

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 715934)
Spotfist,

Currently fixed bugs in internal next FW:
Link to bugzilla

Thanks, but when can I expect the fix? This is my point. Why does nokia have to play cloak and dagger? It just makes things worse than what they are, If I knew when to expect the update at least I would know it is being done, at the moment I look at the bug report and ask myself if we will ever see pr1.3

nosa101 2010-06-15 10:27

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Complaining on here is pointless.

slender 2010-06-15 10:28

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Spotfist,
I do not know answer. Try to post that kind of qustions to Nokia conversations or Nokiaīs Maemo discussions forum.

And vote also in here:
"A future public update released with the year/week later than this internal
build version will include the fix. (This is not always already the next public
update.)
Please verify that this new version fixes the bug by marking this bug report as
VERIFIED after the public update has been released and if you have some time.

To answer popular followup questions:
* Nokia does not announce release dates of public updates in advance.
* There is currently no access to these internal, non-public build versions.
A Brainstorm proposal to change this exists at
http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._packages-002/
"

Jack6428 2010-06-15 11:25

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
I want Nokia to fix the damn battery problem of PR1.2, now!

Helmuth 2010-06-15 13:05

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 715951)
I do not know answer. Try to post that kind of qustions to Nokia conversations or Nokiaīs Maemo discussions forum.

And vote also in here:

[...]
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 715951)
A Brainstorm proposal to change this exists at
http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._packages-002/
"

Nice to know slender. But many have already voted and as discussed here the Brainstorm system is not working at the moment. So, in my personal opinion, its a waste of time... specially when you create a Brainstorm. Voting is okay. It doesn't hurt and you don't waste much time. But no one will observe the Brainstorm or consider about the elected solution. There is no tracking system behind Brainstorm. It's at the moment a dead end. ("mv /dev/null")

The only system that works a little bit is reporting and voting at bugs.maemo.org - even though the workflow and community incorporation has to get strongly improved!

slender 2010-06-15 13:20

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Helmuth,
Actually first things what I criticized here in MAEMO.org was that brainstorm is basically just venting channel that is 60% ready :| Like playground for all hippies to hold hands. But still there is some things that have evolved from there but itīs only small percentage. Voting there is always good thing to do.

When i think about it IIRC I have criticized all stuff here starting from design and layout of wiki and talk.maemo but lately i have just gave up. Itīs just weird to suggest something like "how about if we put brakes in to this bicycle here" and really try to hold your laugh at same time and have really deep discussion why,how,when and then total silence..meh. This is what it is, boiling place for procrastinators who have actually really great ideas but we do not have enough doers. Me included :|

schettj 2010-06-15 13:36

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by louiskkchan (Post 715742)
Can Nokia assign someone from Symbian team and get these fixed?

No, they can't.

attila77 2010-06-15 13:40

Re: What's the problem in Nokia!? People is not working as a team!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 715891)
In my opinion there is no reason to let a Symbian guy work for maemo. I don't want in the end a Symbian device. But to avoid the same mistakes other systems has done 10 years ago a consultant were a wise decision. Or simply look at a Symbian Device: "what have they done to solve this problem?"

Why have maemo to reinvent the wheel at fundamental parts?

Because Linux and Symbian are so fundamentally different, even though what people use them for in this case is not. There are limits how much you can improve a ballpoint pen design by looking at graphite pencil designs.


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