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sygys 2010-07-01 08:29

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
What is everyone whining on the flash 10.1 issue?? it requires 800+ mHz to run smooth so it wont happen... thats the end of story!

Mr Bump 2010-07-01 08:41

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 736754)
What is everyone whining on the flash 10.1 issue?? it requires 800+ mHz to run smooth so it wont happen... thats the end of story!

Flash 10.1 beta seems to run fine on nitdroid...

efekt 2010-07-01 08:54

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sygys (Post 736754)
it requires 800+ mHz to run smooth

I don't know about "running smoothly" - but the fact is that it doesn't require anything like this, as I remeber that a new Android phone was annouced (I don't remember which model and which brand) which supports Flash 10.1, and its stock CPU is 550Mhz...

NokTokDaddy 2010-07-01 09:16

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
@afaq:

Thanks for sharing this and listening to opinions expressed by others -they have covered my concerns with N900 as it stands.

I've attended a couple of focus groups before and doubt if anyone from Nokia will actually be present - that could lead to a discussion and I think they'll just be wanting to gather data and opinion.

They may well use psychometric evaluation techniques to get at what they need, so whilst I'm sure you'll want to represent the wider views expressed on this thread it'd probably be best to get your own (personal) views clear in advance and concentrate on those - one individual can make a difference if his weapon is the truth.

If they say things at the start like 'there are no right or wrong answers' or 'be as honest as possible' you can bet they're using psychometric processes. Be as honest and frank as possible because questions that follow will validate/disprove earlier questions.

I recently took part in a simple text survey on N900, so Nokia are clearly curious about the people who have bought this device for some reason. One thing that struck me was the question "Would you recommend N900 to a friend?" followed by "Why not?" They are obviously concerned by the N900 episode.

Reading between the lines I think they realise they dropped the ball on N900/Maemo and do not want to repeat the mistake with Meego.

IMO all this 'N900 review' work will not make much difference to N900 but will be implemented on the first Meego device and maybe N8/N9 - the timing is right for those devices, but it does not make sense to make expensive changes to a device that will be replaced shortly anyway.

Enjoy the session - you have the chance to help shape the future of Nokia devices.

kojacker 2010-07-01 15:14

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
This was last night (Wed 30th), right? Any update? It'll be interesting to hear what happened :)

kojacker 2010-07-08 20:08

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
*bump* Still no update?

It would be interesting to hear what happened and what you discussed about.

efekt 2010-07-08 20:23

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
I second that!

afaq 2010-07-08 21:04

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
Thanks for the bump, been meaning to do this but work's been a little crazy.

The focus group date changed for me once as they had too many people turn up. So this also added to a delay in posting this.

I arrived 10 mins early - got handed an envelope with £50 and a clipboard with 2 pages of questions to complete before the session began.

Questions - if I remember them correctly:

1. What do you use your N900 for (tick as appropriate)
- Taking Photos
- Making Videos
- Playing Video Games
- Listening to Music
- Sending SMS
- Sending MMS
- Sending Emails
- Social Sites

They also asked the frequency with which I would use these features. I answered as applicable to me. However thought it funny that they mentioned MMS - which was convincing evidence that even though Nokia itself wasn't running this session, they had not even bothered inputting anything into it. Anyone at Nokia would know that the N900 is missing the native MMS functionality.

2. What are your favourite features of the N900? (open ended)
I wrote
- Customisation
- Open
- Hardware Keyboard
- Multi tasking
- MicroB
..etc

3. Name 3 other of your other favourite gadgets and explain why you like them.

- PS3
- Surround System (integration with all my hardware)
- Laptop

Everyone struggled with this question - at first glance it's an easy question but once I got thinking I realised the N900 is actually a combination of a lot of my fav gadgets. I struggled to put down three. Surround System was a desperate attempt. Someone even wrote Microwave. Can you think of 3 gadgets that you would put down on this list?


NokTokDaddy was spot on with his observations. No one from Nokia was present there.
A small room with a table in the middle and two video camera's filmed us for 90 mins.

I was very surprised to hear the views of other people. Questions were based around the experience of the N900 in respects to:

- What do you think of the Hardware?
- What do you think of Maemo?
- Why did you buy N900?
- What are your favourite features of the N900?, and what are your least favourite features?
- Do you use the qwerty keyboard or the onscreen keyboard?

These led into random tangents and discussions. Some interesting perspectives from other users and some shocking. I was very surprised that most of the people who attended were not very fond of the device.
When asked who liked the device there was silence and people looked around. I raised my hand immediately and everyone laughed.

I think 9 months after the release of the N900 a lot of people's opinions have shifted. In my mind Android's advancement into the phone market has made a lot of new joiners questions their choice. Everyone liked the customisable nature of Maemo but the lack of App's was a popular point.
The browser kicked *** - the phone was too fat and heavy, but it def was a unique device that made everyone proud. Battery life was a common theme and not everyone knew the in's and out's of Overclocking and basic mod's to the phone (e.g. Changing fonts).

I managed to get all my concerns and frustrations across. Most of the points mentioned here in this post were shared by me anyway so I believed in them and def pushed them hard but also made sure that It was clear that this annoyance came out of love, and I really wanted to see the next device, no, even this device supported by Nokia for the long term. To which everyone nodded.

Someone asked who would be looking to buy a Meego device on it's release. No one said they would. N900 was too expensive and people would wait around for a better option without being early adapters again.

That pretty much sums it up. The other N900 owners of course raised more points none of which are new to us here on TMO. Everyone seemed cool and we shared contact details. I think this was perhaps the most densely populated crowd of N900 users in the UK during those 90 mins :D

So no Nokia representation - but thats ok. We all got our points across. Hopefully this, combined with all the survey's we've filled online can get some basic points into the empty heads of Nokia that we might be enthusiasts for great gadgets but we will not stick around to be guinea pigs if we are not respected with our choices.

danramos 2010-07-08 21:23

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
I could easily list three other gadgets if I had an N900 (I have an N800, feel burned enough by lack of customer support and closed-source in Fremantle that I won't get an N900). Bluetooth headphones, folding bluetooth keyboard, wiimote (which I use with my N800 and Motorola Droid for games) and so on.

I think you could, too. Maybe.

afaq 2010-07-08 21:26

Re: N900 Users Discussion Panel, Set up by Nokia (London)
 
There are a LOT of great gadgets out there. I have tried to stay very minimalist - been thinking of getting bluetooth headphones, bluetooth keyboard etc

So i guess maybe im alone in this. I just bought a digi camcorder so thats something to add to the list i guess.


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