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wmarone 2010-10-09 07:10

Re: Windows Phone 7: what a joke
 
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Originally Posted by bsving (Post 836952)
This is 100% geek-talk, what device has most HP. Didn't you read my post?

Obviously you're not paying attention. Maybe you think like Nokia does, if so I can see why they missed the boat on a lot of things.

High horsepower devices ARE the high profile devices. The iPhone 4 is no slouch. Galaxy S, Droid, HTC's better phones, they're all high profile devices competing over the same market that MeeGo devices will.

It's because of those devices that people are saying Nokia is falling behind. Not because of the mid to low end, where margins become thin and no one pays attention. It's the high end that Apple cracked. That got average people buying handsets that actually had performance.

Nokia won't even pretend to be putting Symbian up against them unless they put an OMAP3 or better in them, and I don't believe they will, at least not until the OMAP3 is second tier.

bsving 2010-10-09 08:20

Re: Windows Phone 7: what a joke
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 836964)
Obviously you're not paying attention. Maybe you think like Nokia does, if so I can see why they missed the boat on a lot of things.

High horsepower devices ARE the high profile devices. The iPhone 4 is no slouch. Galaxy S, Droid, HTC's better phones, they're all high profile devices competing over the same market that MeeGo devices will.

It's because of those devices that people are saying Nokia is falling behind. Not because of the mid to low end, where margins become thin and no one pays attention. It's the high end that Apple cracked. That got average people buying handsets that actually had performance.

Nokia won't even pretend to be putting Symbian up against them unless they put an OMAP3 or better in them, and I don't believe they will, at least not until the OMAP3 is second tier.

From a geek perspective you are somewhat right, but also wrong. The Broadcom GPU of the Symbian^3 devices is faster than anything else out there, both in 3D/2D and for video and for still pictures. You don't need a fast processor to run 3D and video, you only need a good GPU.

The big money for Android is the mid to low end. Just wait and see the market shares coming up for this years last months and next years first months. SE will be the most selling Android phone manufacturer with their X10 mini and X8 (and more coming). This is where the money is, and this is first priority for Nokia with the C6-01 this year, and a whole portfolio next year.

The other big market is Business. Former WinMo territory, now RIM. RIM is the real high end. High quality no nonsense devices that does the job. This is also where the E series is.

The real big money is in low end. At the other end is geek-stuff, Today it is only Samsung that makes Money here, with Galaxy S. Motorola is as good as dead, Palm is dead, and HTC is making so many different devices with equal specs in this miniscule market segment that they compete only with themselves. All of them are waiting for WinMo7 so they can produce high end devices, mainly for business segment, that isn't attacked from behind by their own mid Android phones.

And the iPhone. A geek toy that is untouchable today, but that will gradually loose interest.

Venemo 2010-10-09 08:38

Re: Windows Phone 7: what a joke
 
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Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 836434)
Recent (last week) First impressions of Window 7 phone by Apple fanboy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-...hone-7-2010-10

""Really Nice" And Better Than Android"...

Well, since Android itself is crap, it's not that hard to be better than Android... :D


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