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Reggie 2010-10-25 21:58

Re: Server outages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 850703)
Old-school backup system where you have to take down the service for a while? I thought everyone did backups on the fly these days (i.e. RAID, Tivoli, etc.). More curious than anything, old-school backup system is a pain but I'm sure it's cheaper, too.

Yes, the backup is online and set to incremental. For some reason though, MySQL locks some of the major tables during the backup making the the site seem unaccessible. The major tables are quite large as well.

I'm checking some more items that might be causing the problem now. It looks like the server is responding well now, despite the not so low server load.

Just to clarify, the forum server is separate from the other parts of maemo.org. As nidO has mentioned, it's the spike on the number of visitors in the forum that causes the forum server outage.

YoDude 2010-10-25 22:22

Re: Server outages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 850467)
more servers needed its not good that a firmware announcement should kill the site for a day and not only that it kills meego forums too.
rather separate them to different servers or get more b/c imo its unacceptable that it impacts other sites

Simple fix:
Increase dues...

storkus 2010-10-25 22:27

Re: Server outages
 
Hehe, nidO, I thought that was obvious, but I guess not.

danramos 2010-10-26 07:59

Re: Server outages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 850778)
Yes, the backup is online and set to incremental. For some reason though, MySQL locks some of the major tables during the backup making the the site seem unaccessible. The major tables are quite large as well.

I'm checking some more items that might be causing the problem now. It looks like the server is responding well now, despite the not so low server load.

Just to clarify, the forum server is separate from the other parts of maemo.org. As nidO has mentioned, it's the spike on the number of visitors in the forum that causes the forum server outage.

Ah okay! The context and the way it was being explained made it sound like the same servers--if it's purely refreshes and genuine forum traffic, then there's only the MySQL problem (although I'm still not sure I understand why backups have to occur on a set schedule as opposed to a live syncing backup or something more efficient with no downtime.. but then I don't know the rest of the story either) and bandwidth (which I suppose could be throttled at the server or, better, the load balancer/router/whatever you're using.

*Sonic* 2010-10-26 18:17

Re: Server outages
 
Its been off most of the evening for me today, and all last night and meego is still down

Is this a private server or provided / funded by Nokia ?

None of the other Maemo / N900 sites have been down, so why this one

Is it a case of it just needs more money thrown at it ?

Not a rant serious questions as I visit a few high visitor forums and its incredibly rare they ever go down and they have thousands of users pretty much all of the time and they are vbulletin too

Dave999 2010-10-26 19:04

Re: Server outages
 
more users here now than when pr 1.2 was released. Dont remember any longer server issues back then.

???

Reggie 2010-10-26 19:14

Re: Server outages
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *Sonic* (Post 852095)
Its been off most of the evening for me today, and all last night and meego is still down

The site was actually up the most of the night last night as I was monitoring it. It only went down a few minutes at 1 AM (EDT) for backup.

Yes, today is another busy day and I am indeed monitoring the server, tweaking and even restarted it a few minutes ago.

More patience guys. I'm doing the best I can. It will pass.

gazza_d 2010-10-26 19:19

Re: Server outages
 
don't seem to have seen many other replies on here thanking Reggie and his team (does he have a team) for the hard work and effort pugt in keeping this particular show on the road. i frequently found the site timing out over the last 24 hours, and realised why.

*Sonic* 2010-10-26 19:44

Re: Server outages
 
I have no idea on how the site is run, whether it is a hobby or a full time job so cant make comments on how hard the team work, if it is a hobby site then kudos to the people that run it, as I know how hard it is to run a forum and keep it going, if its a full time paid job then that is what Reggie is being paid to do, as I say I have no idea though

Reggie everytime I tried to get on the site last night it either took about 10 minutes to load the page, or just didnt even load and at one point I got an instant page cannot be found

Meego forum is still down for me and this evening it has timed out several times, although it is better than last night

I am on virgin 20mb broadband in the UK if that makes any difference as to why the site never worked at all last night

danramos 2010-10-26 23:36

Re: Server outages
 
I'd thank Reggie but the server keeps timing out whenever I try and it's easier to re-try posts. :P


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