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-   -   New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard? (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68057)

zymo 2011-01-09 16:49
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 915779)
If people decides phones after Ghz and how many pixels the camera has, well then they sometimes are stupid.

More Ghz or more pixels on the HW doesnt always mean theyr better/faster. Also true in the case of sofware like Flash 9 and Flash 10. If flash 9 has HW accel and Flash 10 has not and draining more battery and CPU which do you prefer?


* If an phone has 13Mpix camera and a old DSLR camera has 6 do you really beleive the phones camera is better?

* We already knows that 600 Mhz Cortex in many ways is better than Smartdragon 900Mhz. Or maybe this is not true Maybe its depending on OS its running?

* Maybe some OS is more optimized working in lower Mhz? (Hint: Maemo vs Android)

* My guess is there is plenty of HW outthere now that good HW fast GPU/CPU and so on in the specs. But they dont use it fully cause they dont know or had time to implement those new features in the os.

So my point is Mhz and pixels and/or latest versions of software/hardware is not always better.
that is true, but most of the people only compare specs and after that they decide which device they buy. And again, in terms of marketing it would be better to have specs like dual core cpu and 1080p video out. This will make it easier for Samsung and others to promote their handsets, just like LG did it with the Optimus 2x/speed. The last time LG got so much attention for a phone was...i really don’t remember when it was. Techblogs were only talking about being the first dual core smartphone.

wmarone 2011-01-09 17:57
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 915226)
According to him UI changes and making harmattan as compatible to MeeGo as possible are much of the reason for the delays.
To do this they would basically have to toss the entire understructure and just shuffle the GUI over. Entirely possible, though time consuming (but essential, if you're Nokia.)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 915779)
So my point is Mhz and pixels and/or latest versions of software/hardware is not always better.
The catch is that clock for clock an A9 based dual-core device will outperform a single core A8 based device. No amount of software will help you, unless the software on the A9 is horribly unoptimized.

Releasing an A8 based device as your high end now would simply serve to embarrass Nokia, and I hope they've moved on to their next iteration (since they skipped the holiday season.)

buchanmilne 2011-01-10 08:14
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 915999)
The catch is that clock for clock an A9 based dual-core device will outperform a single core A8 based device. No amount of software will help you, unless the software on the A9 is horribly unoptimized.
Assuming everything is running on the main CPU, but graphics (runs on GPU) and many media operations (music/video decoding, image processing etc. run on DSP) don't.

Not all ARM devices using the same ARM core are identical at the same clock speed ...

Helmuth 2011-01-10 08:20
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
We will see... but if that's true it's nothing for me.

There is again no lens cover for the camera at the backside and I can't find the Hardware keyboard.

Such a Device is a no go. It's okay for some cheap iPhone replicas. But not for a Device with a Terminal...

F2thaK 2011-01-10 08:49
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
the N9 will be announced @ the MWC

tweeted 10 mins ago



oh, and there is a camera lens..

look harder.



edit: just read it all, and its all good news to me.
oh. apart from no hw kb. fail.

gerbick 2011-01-10 09:13
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
No hardware kb?

First they copied Apple with the no MMS on launch with the N900. Now they're dropping the hardware keyboard... just like Apple and the myriad of Android phones that are shunned around these parts.

The irony is not easily overlooked.

Radicalz38 2011-01-10 09:29
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 916648)
No hardware kb?

First they copied Apple with the no MMS on launch with the N900. Now they're dropping the hardware keyboard... just like Apple and the myriad of Android phones that are shunned around these parts.

The irony is not easily overlooked.
Be prepared. 3g video calling is next. Since most anddroid phones are dropping the front camera. See the legendary droid series :rolleyes:

gerbick 2011-01-10 09:40
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
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Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 916655)
Be prepared. 3g video calling is next. Since most anddroid phones are dropping the front camera. See the legendary droid series :rolleyes:
Most Android phones are adding forward facing cameras now.

And unlike Maemo, Skype is being updated for that platform. Same for Nimbuzz and Fring. Among others.

lardman 2011-01-10 09:47
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 916637)
the N9 will be announced @ the MWC

tweeted 10 mins ago



oh, and there is a camera lens..

look harder.



edit: just read it all, and its all good news to me.
oh. apart from no hw kb. fail.
Tweeted by whom?

Helmuth 2011-01-10 09:50
Re: New n9 meego rumors. no keyboard?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 916637)
oh, and there is a camera lens..

look harder.
Yes, there is a camera lens. But there is no cover! Read exactly before you advise others to look harder.


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