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Yes and you cannot do it anymore in same extent with single device. Apple opened the segment and is clear winner and android is following. To fight back you should not compete only with single device but with whole armada of devices that sync&talk between each other and are not dependend on single OS that is designed behind closed doors or you need to buy license to use it.

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facts only:
- Nokia spends 4x on R&D than its competitors. iphone v1.0 R&D expenses would be much lower than Nokia
- 0% market share in phones in v1.0.
- the only non-apple app in v1.0 was Google Maps I believe
- v1.0 didnt even ship with an SDK, the demand was so awesome, hackers created their own SDK and wrote apps for it before the offical SDK was released.

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I'll buy Meego device just if it satisfies my needs, just like other devices I bought in my life. By the play of coincidences, unitl now it was Nokia who made such devices.

I won't buy it to prove Nokia something, because it's stupid to even think you can prove something to mindless entity such the corporations are.
They are lead by the will of shareholders and other idiotic inhumane institutions, it's a nice little capitalistic world out there.

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buy another meego phone.. definitely not nokia.

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I will consider buying the Noika meego phone, assuming the hardware really rocks and no other manufacturer has started selling equally good meego phones with a clear plan for future devices.

With that being said, I don't think that it is impossible that Nokia will eventually go the meego route. If you look at their stated plans, they will reduce their investments in meego and Qt but still keep working on it*. This sounds to me like they are hedging their bets in case the WP7 strategy fails. Of course, no company would ever publicly admit something like that as it would sound like Nokia does not believe that their new partnership with MS will succeed.

*Even with significantly reduced manpower they can still improve meego a lot, as the relationship between quality and amount of coding done does not linearly depend on the number of people working on it.

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i thought this thread is about the rescue plan for meego - if yes comparing Apple and Nokia is not going to help us. For the same reason, i cannot answer the poll question. Buying meego device and/or showing Nokia that they are wrong is probably not the best way to save meego. The best way, in my humble opinon, is to convince some big player(s) that such a platform has an excellent money making potential and should be developed more. Does it? If yes, what are the means to "sell" it to somebody but Nokia. Expecting that MS will allow Nokia to keep Meego going can work ONLY if MS abandons its own platform. How likely is that?

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TX for hosting the threads.
there is another thread dealing with this topic from a more technical point of view - check "Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom? (12)" and consider consolidation

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Sorry, I'm done with Nokia now...

I've always admired Nokia's phones, and the underlying spirit of "Connecting People"... heck, I still have a jacket that I got as an employee of a former regional cellular telecom with "Nokia" and "Connecting People" logos, that I've worn proudly for 10+ years. I've also admired Nokia's efforts in the open-source space; I was a firm believer in the Qt strategy - Symbian powered smartphones as a bridge from featurephones on S40, MeeGo driving high-end cutting edge hardware, all running apps developed in Qt and portable to desktops, netbooks, and tablets using Windows, Mac(iOS), and Linux. Backend services provided by Ovi to deliver those apps, along with music, video, and hooks to social networks... THERE'S YOUR ECOSYSTEM, ELOP!

However, as fortune would have it, instead of following through on the vision, Elop throws all of this time, energy and money into the trash (well, actually, the "Recycle Bin"... he was/is a Microsoft-ie). Chasing after short term gains by appealing to the US market... trying to appease Wall Street and, in turn, the folks at 1 Microsoft Way... Turning Symbian, an OS that was on the wane but still leading the market, into a dead-end zombie in the blink of an eye... and turning MeeGo's potential into an afterthought - a "research" project, a "hobby". Anssi hit the nail on the head with his "pissing your pants for warmth" comment - Elop has pissed all over Nokia, and is waiting for the frostbite to set in.

No, I'm done with Nokia... Companies that partner with Microsoft usually end up in one of two ways - dead, or "a division of Microsoft". Ask Sendo, Palm, or Danger how that Microsoft partnership is going...

My N900 will be my last Nokia phone. I'll stick with the community SSU, I'll try out MeeGo 1.2, perhaps move to WebOS if HP's new offerings pan out.

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Whatever comes with 4 inch screen and a HW keyboard that is not iOS or Android, I will get. I hoped it was the N9, but now it looks to be either Bada or Nokia WP :) The E7 may become dirt cheap now, then I will get that one instead.

My priorities (must have HW keyboard):
N9
Nokia WP/Bada
HP (looks way too ugly right now, and not readily available)
Some Intel stuff maybe?

I only care about the phone. Who makes it is irrelevant.

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Poll omits "not sure yet" option. Why? This isn't so black and white.