Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

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Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

Hey, that's all part of the game, right? All modern major companies use every tool available to them to succeed. Microsoft has often faced rivals just as cutthroat in business as they are. (And yes, Microsoft has many times had to pay for their cutthroat practices backfiring as well.)

However, through it all, they've somehow managed to find the perfect line to keep their products relevant enough to remain dominant in the market and their practices legal enough to keep from being broken up.

I am, as you may have noticed from my posts, no fan of Microsoft's products! :) But you've gotta respect how this company grabs any sector it enters by the throat and never lets go. Like many here, I have my suspicions that Nokia's recent WP7 decision is just one more instance of this amazing ability...

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

Oh, heck, whether these products were better before Microsoft acquired them or whether better products still exist outside Microsoft is an entirely different question! :) You've at least gotta admit that Internet Explorer, as a Microsoft product, has been one of its most successful -- even today, in its various incarnations, it still ranks as the top browser in use on the net from all the statistics I can find...

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

While I partially agree with what you've said, I wouldn't really write off Microsoft's success as their remarkable ability to market their products. That's Apple's biggest strength, not Microsoft's. Microsoft is much better at arm-twisting, big promises, risk-management (as in - we'll do it even if it's shady, even if it may affect our image, as long as the fines are lower than the profit) and throwing its weight around.

As for innovation, judging by my substantial experience working with various Microsoft-owned departments and Microsoft-centric developers, it's nowhere to be found. Microsoft has that flair to stifle creativity and out-of-the-box thinking like no other company I know of. Now, I can't purely blame that on Microsoft, maybe people who like to `get it done and get over with it`, without thinking much what can be improved, are automatically drawn to Microsoft and their philosophy of computing and doing business, but I have never seen so much framed-in, almost phlegmatic, developers as the ones that are Microsoft-centric. They don't even care about the code they write, they don't even care about future expandability, theirs is just to type it in as a bunch of monkeys on typewriters and move on - non Microsoft-centric developers usually consider programming as a form of art (count me in! :rolleyes:), as a mean of creative expression. Such approach, however, grants high productivity, so it's not without merit to business owners, and it comes as no surprise that Microsoft solutions sell - but it comes with a huge cost of severely limited ability to innovate and look-ahead. They will never be able to write all the Shakespearean works despite the popular belief - millions of monkeys typing on a million typewriters cannot produce all the works of William Shakespeare, Facebook is the obvious example of that.

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

But isn't that exactly how marketing works in today's world? :) (Maybe I'm just a cynic...)

I don't think I view Microsoft's programming practices quite as poorly as you may, but yeah, I have to agree that "programming as a form of art" is just about as far away from Microsoft's system as it is possible to be. :)

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

Sexist much?

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

So did Novell. And some other folks.

Do you remember all these settlements Microsoft made with competitors after they destroyed said competitors? Such as Novell? Sun? What came out of that? Patent deal creating FUD for the rest of the community. Pure divide & conquer.

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

I wanted to "thank" Zwer repeatedly for getting it, but it doesn't get any better.

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt
 

I don't know if it's just me or not, but I think both Google and M$ are evilllll...

Re: NOKIA Rejected Android in Favor of M$ - Eric Schmidt