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slender 2011-02-16 10:03

Re: Interview w/ Elop
 
IŽll give you innovative, cheerful, motivated employees that are ready to fight: Comment on Communities Dominate Brands blog.

ps.
Among Nokias R&D people MS is generally seen as pure evil ;)
But hey. Who cares. They just kicked most of them out. Hahaa.

number41 2011-02-16 10:07

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Does anybody got a transcript of that interview? Hell, I so hate spoken articles... The best part of the internet is the reading, you know? Ok, granted, I'll give porn a second place in that statement.

volt 2011-02-16 12:39

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An ecosystem is more than just the store.

As I see it, it's the platform, the development tools, the developers, the existing working applications and the available methodology to install/purchase such applications, the ability to utilize tools and applications from other platforms, and it's the users and the phones the users use. In short, it's everything that a phone user can or has to live with.

As such, the recent move to Qt-centric development must say to have changed the Symbian ecosystem fundamentally, just now since the N8. But very few outside the developers have yet come to see or measure what this change means for the Symbian platform. Not even in a half year perspective. It's a change they've been working towards for two(?) years and just as it's reaching the market, it's being scrapped. While the developers, developers, developers still are only considering to start Qt development.

If we just look at the Ovi Store, I read somewhere here that the Ovi Store number of applications and downloads was increasing rapidly last year, and that it's already a major contender (despite the shittyness of it). I don't have any numbers for it, though.

Either way, it's a big ecosystem that's being replaced by a small ecosystem that is supposed to grow big.

longcat 2011-02-16 12:43

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Ecosystem is a phrase that economists use to describe somethin' in it that they can't fully understand... Like loyalties, funboyism and such....

Ecosystem REALLY shouldn't mean anything to NORMAL person. Computers should be free... ecosystems are just false religions, same sh*t as facebook...

good read here

Rugoz 2011-02-16 12:55

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I think google is the main driver behind the ecosystem business. They combine data from google search, mail, maps etc. to optimize targeted advertising. That is the way the earn money.

It seams Nokia/MS want to copy that business model by combining their services.

Its not so much about apps or platforms.

bchliu 2011-02-16 13:24

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Thats hilarious interview.. really.

Does Stephen Flop not understand that by publicly denouncing Symbian will mean that no one will want to write any further applications for it - hence ZERO support? If thats the case, even if they give out the 150 million or so left that they have, NO ONE will even want it for free?

The current Generation of Symbian owners will be screwed over, and will have NO BRAND LOYALTY? I really hope Nokia falls into the trenches and eventually gets eaten by the devil who they sold their souls to.

Sopwith 2011-02-16 13:50

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Elop and Ballmer putting out the fire at Nokia:

zimon 2011-02-16 14:54

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Does anyone you folks know, why Elop says "WE" when he is talking about Microsoft?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/l...a-at-mwc-2011/
Quote:

6:44PM "When you look at all of the value that we're contributing, the value transferred to Nokia is measured in the Bs, not the Ms." That's billions, not millions, folks.

Also the end of Qt-development was declared:
Quote:

6:51PM "The first MeeGo device that will ship this year will take advantage of the Qt framework. Question is, will Nokia put Qt on Windows Phone? Our initial response is no, that's not the plan. The reason is that if we encourage a fork in Windows Phone's development platform, we could create a situation where we confuse developers and consumers."

danramos 2011-02-18 10:00

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I think WE can all come to some conclusions as to why he might have said "WE".

ysss 2011-02-18 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mohannad (Post 947833)
isnt the ovi store the 2nd largest after the apple app store?

You're almost right. Ovi is the third, right after Blackberry's and just barely above Google's:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7983/appstores.png

Doing some reading about AppStore stats, I came about this article:

Quote:

Nokia's Gigantic App Store
Elizabeth Woyke, 05.07.09, 06:00 PM EDT
Nokia is preparing an app store second in size only to Apple's.


Nokia is about to shake up the app store world.

The Finnish company is planning to roll out an online store for mobile applications later this month. Though Apple ( AAPL - news - people ), Research In Motion ( RIMM - news - people ) and Google ( GOOG - news - people ) already offer similar services, Nokia's ( NOK - news - people ) launch promises to be the biggest app store opening yet and could re-shape the mobile applications market.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/07/nok...ess-nokia.html

Considering the Ovi promise, the MeeGo promises, the numerous delays (N900, N8, etc); I think there's one huge variable often overlooked when discussing about Nokia's strength (and failures):

Their ability to execute things (as planned).


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