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Re: Nokia and open source – a trial by fire

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 955734)

There's so many things in that article that are direct errors or just general misinformation without even covering background/listing opposite points. As well as relying on one source for a large bunch of quotes where it ends up being a slamfest. And don't even get me started on the obvious bias. What happened to objective 'journalism'?

There are -some- points that are probably correct, but it has been mangled horribly and lost in a really bad article :/

It seems to me that it describes the situation almost perfectly: instead of incremental evolution, Nokia decided to rewrite (almost) everything on each iteration.
They could own the complete tablet market now, and have a sizable portion of the smartphone market, if they just fulfilled the promise of maemo.
They decided instead to mount an incredible army of Brancaleone (with all due respect with everyone involved, except management) to fight a losing war (due to the constant change of focus and direction).

Re: Nokia and open source – a trial by fire

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Originally Posted by luca (Post 955767)

It seems to me that it describes the situation almost perfectly: instead of incremental evolution, Nokia decided to rewrite (almost) everything on each iteration.

Yes, but that is like 1% of the article and mostly the Maemo story, not so much MeeGo.com :)

Re: Nokia and open source – a trial by fire

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 955776)

Yes, but that is like 1% of the article and mostly the Maemo story, not so much MeeGo.com :)

Oh, yes, we all know that, after a million u-turns, nokia stuck with meego until the end....:p

Re: Nokia and open source – a trial by fire

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 955763)

Abill: you sound a bit scattered today. Not quite together, if you know what I mean.

Is everything okay?

He seems quite normal to me ;)

Re: Nokia and open source – a trial by fire

Oh i am normal haha its the reast that aint, they all think the world revolves around Nokia.

Re: Nokia and open source – a trial by fire

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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 955711)

The main problem with that article is that it is not honest.

It may or may not be accurate, but how is it dishonest?

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For instance WebOS, Palm used several years to come up with it, and when they finally launched it, nobody wanted it.

Well, WebOS itself was liked by nearly everyone. Lotsa people wanted it. It was a combination of lousy hardware, knowledge that Palm was in very shaky financial condition and a launch initially only on friggin' Sprint that held people back from putting their money into a new Palm device. It did me for sure.

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Palm was sold to HP, and they have yet to sell a single phone.

Soon...soon. At least WebOS was good enough someone was still willing to buy it and invest more into it.

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The problem with Maemo/MeeGo is that it is ultimately a very bad concept altogether for Nokias future OS.

Maemo/MeeGo/Symbian/Qt was an excellent concept. It's slow execution and M$ billions that changed Nokia's commitment to it.

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The future consists of closed OSes, streamlined stuff, modern stuff that has one main purpose: make it easy for people to connect/use the ecosystem. Apple has walked up the path. WP will provide this, MeeGo will not.

Closed system - absolutely WP7 will deliver. M$ clearly made closed the highest priority for WP7. The rest is not yet there.

And why would a system have to be closed to deliver "...streamlined stuff, modern stuff that has one main purpose: make it easy for people to connect/use the ecosystem"? Modern desktop LInux distros certainly fit that description. Android and WebOS, though not fully open, do too.

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What this mean is that very few people at Nokia believed in the future of MeeGo-Qt-Symbian

It just means that progress was slower than hoped and Nokia felt a stronger commitment to M$ billions than their own plans.

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This is real:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/featu..._smartphon.php

It's easy to poke large holes in several of the points raised there. But I have neither time nor inclination to do that here.