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abill_uk 2011-04-25 04:26

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
Glad to see this thread in full discussion now and shows good spirit to the community.

rocky333 2011-04-25 12:08

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 994841)
Glad to see this thread in full discussion now and shows good spirit to the community.

That's the point!!

Stskeeps 2011-04-25 15:08

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 994786)
Great to see it in enabled in .config, I mean it is missing here http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-dev...master/drivers. Maybe I am not looking at right place. Anyway if you say it is there, I believe you (link?).

Re 720p codecs handling:
here https://gstreamer.ti.com/gf/project/gstreamer_ti/ they are listed as future development/todo, I assume that it is possible for your team to contact TI for some early versions (if exists). And h264 720p encoder is listed as available right now. Not sure for what HW though.

And here http://focus.ti.com/dsp/docs/thirdpa...r&companyId=59 are Ittiam's codecs, which I strongly believe will be given for evaluation to meego team if requested. Another 720p codecs bundle belongs to Aricent http://www.aricent.com/Software/Mult...odecsACSL.aspx, could be an option too.

Linked already in my post. If the codecs are not already out there and publically available we can't have them in DE. Everyone should be able to work with and distribute them, or not at all. So no chance for prerelease as that would require everyone downloading DE to sign a NDA or a nasty EULA.

freemangordon 2011-04-27 06:48

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
Yeah, that seems reasonable, but the initial question was not about the codecs, it was for platform software capability to handle 720p. And my point was that it would be wise if there is such support on ARM side, even if you are not allowed to distribute the DSP codecs. For example TI OpenMax IL (for Android)has support for aricent 720p mpeg4 decoder ,despite the fact it(the codec) is not freely distributable. By including gstreamer or openmax support for 720p codecs you are making possible for one to write an opensource clone of DSP code. Or highy optimised NEON one. Or whatever. Hope you understand my point.

And btw, lets sound more like engineers, not like lawyers , OK?

Stskeeps 2011-04-27 07:22

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 995968)
Yeah, that seems reasonable, but the initial question was not about the codecs, it was for platform software capability to handle 720p. And my point was that it would be wise if there is such support on ARM side, even if you are not allowed to distribute the DSP codecs. For example TI OpenMax IL (for Android)has support for aricent 720p mpeg4 decoder ,despite the fact it(the codec) is not freely distributable. By including gstreamer or openmax support for 720p codecs you are making possible for one to write an opensource clone of DSP code. Or highy optimised NEON one. Or whatever. Hope you understand my point.

And btw, lets sound more like engineers, not like lawyers , OK?

Even engineers can be sued... :)

That said, we probably do have the support, but we're not going to invest effort in it as we can't distribute anything for it. Anyone is welcome to experiment with it to get it working and write guides about it.

gst-openmax would probably be trivial to get working.

abill_uk 2011-04-27 07:30

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
Problem is you only got 256 ram available and untill someone can come up with a way to at least double the ram which incidently would push the N900 into far greater heights.

I am looking into this now as i now see MeeGo is well and truly being pushed by many contributors to the project for the N900.

Keep up the fantastic work !.

damnshock 2011-04-27 09:11

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 995986)
Even engineers can be sued... :)

That said, we probably do have the support, but we're not going to invest effort in it as we can't distribute anything for it. Anyone is welcome to experiment with it to get it working and write guides about it.

gst-openmax would probably be trivial to get working.

So you are basically saying that we *can* get 720p if we do it on our own?

Well, It's a pitty it can't be included in the DE but... I can live with that heheheh ;)

Regards

Stskeeps 2011-04-27 09:12

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by damnshock (Post 996038)
So you are basically saying that we *can* get 720p if we do it on our own?

Well, It's a pitty it can't be included in the DE but... I can live with that heheheh ;)

Regards

I wouldn't claim it's impossible, but do remember constraints on hardware..

rocky333 2011-04-29 14:01

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 996039)
I wouldn't claim it's impossible, but do remember constraints on hardware..

The hardware? i think... there is some phones with 256RAM to play 720p files...

Iphone 3GS ( tweaked )
OMNIA HD
DROID
SAMSUNG H1
And why not, N900 UNDER ANDROID!!

256MB is more than sufficient to play 720P standart movies.

Stskeeps 2011-04-29 14:02

Re: MeeGO will suport 720p playback on N900?
 
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Originally Posted by rocky333 (Post 997359)
The hardware? i think... there is some phones with 256RAM to play 720p files...

Iphone 3GS ( tweaked )
OMNIA HD
DROID
SAMSUNG H1
And why not, N900 UNDER ANDROID!!

256MB is more than sufficient to play 720P standart movies.

Yeah, but I was referring to that some later OMAP's has improved DSPs and SGX..


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