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thashku 2011-05-29 13:10

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1017921)
Can you please post this on the Poll thread as it will give hope and maybe pull a few devs?.

but abill you were looking out to nokia to release the source code for maemo,right?
stick on to it,thats our fight,lets not leave it.
MeeGo DE at consumer end will be a secondary option for maemo users. as for me MeeGo is just at its infant stage. an embryo can grow in a womb from a sperm to child in 10 months but after which the growth is slow, similarly meego did grow faster for now but its not yet ready to battle with maemo. MeeGo is just fantasy and facination.( no offence to meego; i like it too).

devil prince 2011-06-04 12:29

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got it its not germany one but who cares why only developers?? and even if only developers why not with full features and stuff what about the release plan
that so lame you say 25 april and then its 25 may and then never
ban me up or remove my account but meego is a failure big time even nokia ditched it God knows how much they regret on signing a contract with meego to manufacture a meego fone for them

erendorn 2011-06-04 12:41

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Originally Posted by devil prince (Post 1022176)
got it its not germany one but who cares why only developers?? and even if only developers why not with full features and stuff what about the release plan
that so lame you say 25 april and then its 25 may and then never
ban me up or remove my account but meego is a failure big time even nokia ditched it God knows how much they regret on signing a contract with meego to manufacture a meego fone for them

How much did you pay nokia for having meego on your n900?
How much will you pay nokia if you get meego on your n900?

Why would nokia ever do that?
Devs with a new OS build applications for the ecosystem of the new OS. It's good for nokia. Consumers who have a new OS on their old phone slow the purchase of their next phone. It's bad for nokia.

Unless of course the new OS is on a new phone, so the consumer buy a new phone. It's good for nokia.

Use your head more and whine less.

danramos 2011-06-08 06:14

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1022180)
How much did you pay nokia for having meego on your n900?
How much will you pay nokia if you get meego on your n900?

Why would nokia ever do that?
Devs with a new OS build applications for the ecosystem of the new OS. It's good for nokia. Consumers who have a new OS on their old phone slow the purchase of their next phone. It's bad for nokia.

Unless of course the new OS is on a new phone, so the consumer buy a new phone. It's good for nokia.

Use your head more and whine less.

On the other hand, the question could be asked about Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS, SuSE, etc. on your laptop. I paid nothing for my OS's on all the computers in my home (running various Linux flavors), but I keep getting top-notch updates, constantly. I've come to expect this from open-source, now, and I've not really seen the same from Nokia--paid or otherwise. Nokia, near as I could tell, were supposed to be selling a PLATFORM to run an open-source operating system, but it's proven to be little more than either a ruse (LOTS of closed-source gotchas) or a let-down (MeeGo seems like all promise, not a lot of delivery).

Man, if only there were a more genuine attempt to support a full-fledged Ubuntu instead or something.

tkatchev 2011-06-08 07:27

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MeeGo is as close to 'full-fledged Ubuntu' as you can realistically get.

The problem is that Ubuntu targets standard, off-the-self commodity hardware.

No such standard exists yet for handsets, so the Ubuntu model is unrealistic for handsets.

(This may change once handsets with Intel chips start appearing on the market.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1024767)
Man, if only there were a more genuine attempt to support a full-fledged Ubuntu instead or something.


danramos 2011-06-08 07:42

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Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1024790)
MeeGo is as close to 'full-fledged Ubuntu' as you can realistically get.

The problem is that Ubuntu targets standard, off-the-self commodity hardware.

No such standard exists yet for handsets, so the Ubuntu model is unrealistic for handsets.

(This may change once handsets with Intel chips start appearing on the market.)

True enough, but that doesn't change my opinion just the same. It's still a shame.

smoku 2011-06-08 08:14

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1024767)
On the other hand, the question could be asked about Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS, SuSE, etc. on your laptop. I paid nothing for my OS's on all the computers in my home (running various Linux flavors), but I keep getting top-notch updates, constantly. I've come to expect this from open-source, now, and I've not really seen the same from Nokia--paid or otherwise.

Free Software != Open Source Software

onethreealpha 2011-06-08 08:36

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the problem is many people assume that because a corporation builds something based on open source (or FOSS) components, that corporation has some obligation beyond generating profits for itself.
Meego is moving along at a good pace as far as I'm concerned.
Just installed the latest daily build of 1.2 and screen unlock functionality is dramatically improved (much faster) and team appears to have optimised a lot of components, with the UX appearing much more responsive, even on first boot.
APN settings config ui has been added ( I haven't tried this yet) and gui package manager has also been added.

Will try out the apn config and report back shortly....

danramos 2011-06-08 08:53

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
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Originally Posted by smoku (Post 1024816)
Free Software != Open Source Software

That old saw again? :P

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Originally Posted by onethreealpha (Post 1024831)
the problem is many people assume that because a corporation builds something based on open source (or FOSS) components, that corporation has some obligation beyond generating profits for itself.
Meego is moving along at a good pace as far as I'm concerned.
Just installed the latest daily build of 1.2 and screen unlock functionality is dramatically improved (much faster) and team appears to have optimised a lot of components, with the UX appearing much more responsive, even on first boot.
APN settings config ui has been added ( I haven't tried this yet) and gui package manager has also been added.

Will try out the apn config and report back shortly....

In fact, it does have an obligation beyond its own profits (says as much in the license that there ARE obligations to be met in the license that aren't necessarily in line with profitability)--but the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. The greatest shame in the whole Maemo/MeeGo affair has been Nokia's shameful disregard for the spirit of free and open-source software (feel better, smoku?).

The fact that you're touting one of the greatest features of the newest MeeGo is that it can unlock faster indicates to me that I wasn't far off with the paraphrasing of the Tai Kwan Leap skit in another thread (where I said, "MeeGo is not a path to a door, but a road leading forever toward the horizon.").

erendorn 2011-06-08 08:58

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Release?????
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1024767)
On the other hand, the question could be asked about Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS, SuSE, etc. on your laptop. I paid nothing for my OS's on all the computers in my home (running various Linux flavors), but I keep getting top-notch updates, constantly.

Agreed, but I can still forget about nokia driver updates for the dell specific version of my laptop's graphic card (windows and ubuntu alike). And there are still many peripherals that will never work, because of no drivers.
But the situation for PC is still much better indeed.


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