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gerbick 2011-08-02 21:22
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
I just wonder how Intel is responding to this bit of news.

number41 2011-08-02 21:53
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Out of the top of my head...

Nokia hosts MeeGo apps
Nokia goes bankrupt, or otherwise shuts down hosting for whatever reason
???????
Profit (for M$, at least)

Now, forgive me for sounding a tad too paranoid, or otherwise too negative... But considering Nokia's situation, I'd say that embracing a solution from them means, irrevocably, that a well-thought out backup plan should be ready to kick in at any time, otherwise chances are that they might drag a lot with them, when they go down...

Also, I'm not too convinced that Nokia's really interested in the well-being of MeeGo, after all that's going on. I'd take their offer with a bit more than a slight whole lot of caution. Much, much more...

Anyways, my two cents.

mikecomputing 2011-08-02 22:27
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 1062901)
gazza_d, I can understand your frustration but this is a Linux Foundation decision. Also please understand Nokia does not own MeeGo
also Nokia is more intrested in getting apps uploaded on ovi and that I COULD understand even if I disagree with the rest of the big mess going on at Nokia (and Intel)

mikecomputing 2011-08-02 22:33
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1062917)
I never liked the idea of Meego very much. What I want in my phone is Debian or Ubuntu with whatever UX I choose (i.e. Cordia, Plasma Mobile, Meego UX).
I have to agree seems biggest mistake Nokia actually did was go meego and "discontinue" Maemo that infacts IS still is alive in form of Meego Harmattan. a closer look it still maemocore but qt instead of gtk.

mikecomputing 2011-08-02 22:41
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by number41 (Post 1063005)
Out of the top of my head...

Nokia hosts MeeGo apps
Nokia goes bankrupt, or otherwise shuts down hosting for whatever reason
???????
Profit (for M$, at least)

Now, forgive me for sounding a tad too paranoid, or otherwise too negative... But considering Nokia's situation, I'd say that embracing a solution from them means, irrevocably, that a well-thought out backup plan should be ready to kick in at any time, otherwise chances are that they might drag a lot with them, when they go down...

Also, I'm not too convinced that Nokia's really interested in the well-being of MeeGo, after all that's going on. I'd take their offer with a bit more than a slight whole lot of caution. Much, much more...

Anyways, my two cents.
yes but what is your solution? Do you trust Intel on this? do you think they are intrested in this I doubt? so question is whats the alternative?

danramos 2011-08-03 02:30
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1063025)
yes but what is your solution? Do you trust Intel on this? do you think they are intrested in this I doubt? so question is whats the alternative?
Well, the question works well on its head too... do you trust Nokia on this? Do you think they are interested in this? Based on their public statements, shifted funding and posturing, I doubt it.

abill_uk 2011-08-03 02:40
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
At least now the truth is coming out and the kind of truth people can relate too instead of all this closed shop talk.

gerbick 2011-08-03 02:40
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1063079)
Well, the question works well on its head too... do you trust Nokia on this? Do you think they are interested in this? Based on their public statements, shifted funding and posturing, I doubt it.
If I were Intel, I would make a stance in regards to offering the developers a "home" for their projects, their talk/discussions and push Intel AppUp as the way to go forward.

Nokia's finally found a way to sow disenfranchisement to even the most hardcore fan. The ambiguous blame on the patents - all without stating what they are... software patents, a potential lawsuit, something that we're not privy to yet... just way too convenient. It supports Elop's stance.

Does this apply to Maemo too? Nobody knows... yet.

NvyUs 2011-08-03 02:57
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
What good is AppUp to non intel products also any OEM that comes on board will want there own store. also most app stores will only allow certain licenses.
No corporate app store is the solution to Community OSS devs most wont go near them

SD69 2011-08-03 03:00
Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qole (Post 1062970)

I think apps.formeego.org is a brilliant community-led recovery from an bad, ugly decision on the part of the Linux Foundation. Our "long lost friend" Nokia didn't create the situation, and they didn't choose the new domain name, but they are completely behind the community-led effort to get the infrastructure up and running without the expected LF hosting and support.

In the long run, I personally think the move to the non-corporate formeego.org site is a much better one, especially if Nokia puts the formeego.org repositories on the N9 like I expect them to do (and like they did with maemo.org).

When Nokia made the open-source community repositories available "out of the box" on the N900, it was a bold, wonderful step forward, away from the Official App Store approach of all the other mobile platforms. Everything I'm hearing from Quim and the community app team suggests that this will happen again on the N9.
I' get what you're saying, but I'm not sure that formeego.org will be good because it will be like maemo.org, version 2, is such a good argument.


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