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LavaCroft 2012-05-24 05:41

Re: Symbian kills off Nokia brand value......
 
People are running away from Nokia because Nokia has been busy doing nothing but create devices that nobody really desires. This is not Elop's fault, but the fault of the people that hired him. It's getting really old that people keep blaming Elop for Nokia's mistakes.

switch-hitter 2012-05-24 07:41

Re: Symbian kills off Nokia brand value......
 
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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1211667)
Again, I know that as soon as the iPhone came out Nokia executives were in panic. Big panic, as they had nothing in their portfolio. They came over here cowering in fear, 2007. They brought Elop for a simple reason: they knew that sales were falling across board as Androids and iPhones expanded. The board knew it before anyone as they have data that is not available to regular folks.

What data? Be specific. Sales were falling and rising simultaneously? How does that work?

If NOKIA really foresaw a problem with Symbian why didn't they focus more of their efforts on Maemo?


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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1211667)
Stop blaming Elop for troubles that began way before his time. Symbian was out of the game.....it was just a matter of time before it disappeared. And that is all to it. Symbian was good when competition sucked, and it couldn't evolve when androids and iPhones came out.

Sure NOKIA made mistakes in the past (Personally I would have liked to see Hildon on Symbian way back when) but the problems NOKIA had before Elop prostituted them to M$ were solvable, in fact the path they had chosen with Symbian/MeeGo/Qt was a good one, they just needed to step up the pace.


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Originally Posted by Lumiaman (Post 1211667)
Symbian is dead. Accept it. The world accepted it and moved on, you should do it too.

I do accept Symbian is dead, however it didn't die a natural death. NOKIA's problem is most of the Symbian world will probably move on to Android because it's the only OS that currently gives them the level of functionality they're used to.

NOKIA did not have to put all their eggs in one basket. That's especially stupid when you've already seen the one basket you've chosen to put all your eggs in is full of holes.

Samsung must absolutely love Elop.

HtheB 2012-05-24 08:19

Re: Symbian kills off Nokia brand value......
 
Lumiaman, are you Elops "***-licker"?
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1321495822

tebsu 2012-05-24 11:03

Re: Symbian kills off Nokia brand value......
 
I dont like Symbian and i dont like Windows Phone. Whatever it is, its the fault of the CEO. Someone said here that he is there since 2007? Well thats 5 years and what we have now is worse than before. (Except N900/N9 but they dont have support)

Lumiaman 2012-05-24 11:49

Re: Symbian kills off Nokia brand value......
 
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Originally Posted by tebsu (Post 1211834)
I dont like Symbian and i dont like Windows Phone. Whatever it is, its the fault of the CEO. Someone said here that he is there since 2007? Well thats 5 years and what we have now is worse than before. (Except N900/N9 but they dont have support)

and you are from Finland? He joined Nokia in 2010...when Symbian easy on the ropes getting knocked out in each round


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