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peterleinchen 2015-06-24 05:34

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
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Originally Posted by deancatchpole (Post 1474579)
I'm only talking about over wifi for the moment. But for the record I know I can make SIP voice calls over my 3G provider no problem.

Making SIP calls is one thing, receiving SIP calls on the same account is a different beast.

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Originally Posted by deancatchpole (Post 1474580)
The fact that the Windows Linphone client successfully registers my account would rule those things out, wouldn't it?

Nope. Registering works one way (connection opened from your network). But when being called different ports are used (connection needs to be opened from outside into your network).

So as long as you are behind a router (and not in a DMZ) you run into problems being called (and possibly with incoming speech/video).

Try in a 'open' internet hot spot...

Micha1982 2015-06-24 06:38

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
Telegram..... !

Atm video is not possible on N900 - but hopefully that changes if more people use it.

skanky 2015-06-24 07:50

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
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Originally Posted by deancatchpole (Post 1474582)
Well, I've registered two Linphone accounts just so that I could try calling from one to the other. With the Windows client I'm simply trying to dial the 'username' of the other account (registered on the n900). It usually says the 'user is temporarily unavailable' and aborts.

Are you forwarding port 5060? You may need to forward another one too, as I think there's two ports required by SIP. I would have thought the Linphone help would explain how to set up your network...? There may also be a setting in the software to tell it that it's behind a NAT router. It's been a long time since I tried to do anything like this, but I vaguely remember having to do that with the software I used back then.

MartinK 2015-06-24 10:17

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What about Tox ? It is distributed, encrypted by default & zero setup. It also does not do any of the privacy invading crap like Whatsapp & co do and is fully open source.

As for audio and video chat - it works fine on desktop (tried Linux-Linux, but it should work just as fine with Windows & MacOS) and it can automatically traverse NAT, so no manual port forwarding is needed.

There are also mobile clients - Cyanide for Sailfish OS and a client for Android. But I'm not sure how far are the mobile clients with audio & video chat support.

freemangordon 2015-06-24 11:14

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
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Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1474641)
What about Tox ? It is distributed, encrypted by default & zero setup. It also does not do any of the privacy invading crap like Whatsapp & co do and is fully open source.

As for audio and video chat - it works fine on desktop (tried Linux-Linux, but it should work just as fine with Windows & MacOS) and it can automatically traverse NAT, so no manual port forwarding is needed.

There are also mobile clients - Cyanide for Sailfish OS and a client for Android. But I'm not sure how far are the mobile clients with audio & video chat support.

This:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=21

and this:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=23


EDIT:
Also, look at the issue tracker https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/1251

ibrakalifa 2015-06-24 13:01

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
Why don't you try LINE app?

deanrc 2015-06-24 13:37

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
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Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1474631)
Making SIP calls is one thing, receiving SIP calls on the same account is a different beast.


Nope. Registering works one way (connection opened from your network). But when being called different ports are used (connection needs to be opened from outside into your network).

So as long as you are behind a router (and not in a DMZ) you run into problems being called (and possibly with incoming speech/video).

Try in a 'open' internet hot spot...

Well in the FAQ on Linphone it says the following...

DOES LINPHONE WORK BEHIND FIREWALLS ? WHAT ARE THE PORTS USED ?

Yes it works provided that the SIP server is kind enough. The SIP server powering the linphone.org SIP service is kind enough and guarantees correct operation behind any firewall.


... but I'm complicating things unnecessarily for myself here, and I don't want to hijack the thread with my problem. The Windows client situation is not that important to me. I really just to want see a video call in action on my n900 via SIP. Linphone if necessary, or I have a Callcentric SIP account that I know works with audio (I use it often to receive Google Voice diverted calls).

If anyone wants to help me out by trying to call me, I'll send you my Linphone SIP address via private message.

Thanks.

nokiabot 2015-06-24 17:13

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deancatchpole (Post 1474582)
Well, I've registered two Linphone accounts just so that I could try calling from one to the other. With the Windows client I'm simply trying to dial the 'username' of the other account (registered on the n900). It usually says the 'user is temporarily unavailable' and aborts.

try calling from n900

deanrc 2015-06-24 19:00

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
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Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1474685)
try calling from n900

It worked! How stupid of me :rolleyes:

I wasn't even sure how to do it from the phone. I thought I was limited to numbers like a normal cellular call. But, of course, you have the full keyboard available with SIP calls!

Thank you :)

peterleinchen 2015-06-24 19:43

Re: Video (Chat) Alternative to Skype ??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deancatchpole (Post 1474661)
Well in the FAQ on Linphone it says the following...

DOES LINPHONE WORK BEHIND FIREWALLS ? WHAT ARE THE PORTS USED ?

Yes it works provided that the SIP server is kind enough. The SIP server powering the linphone.org SIP service is kind enough and guarantees correct operation behind any firewall.

I CANNOT confirm this. At home behind a FRITZ I need to route the client ports through (to Win and Jubuntu client on different ports) and also on the road I need to put my wifi router to DMZ mode for that IP I am going to use with my N900.
Initiating calls always work, but enabling speech/video or getting called is the prob (even wkith stun and all tricks;)).


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