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- - Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2 (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96615)

Feathers McGraw

2016-04-11 20:23

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1503292)

Thank you for this. I swear most people don't do much on these devices other than tinker.

Just because people are doing different things to you, doesn't mean they aren't doing anything of value :p

My bank's website works fine for me. Not as convenient as an app, sure, but good enough for occasional use. I can see why you would want the app if you use it all the time.

frullewulle

2016-04-11 21:32

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by locusf (Post 1503144)

Sfdroid experiments are under way, otherwise Sailfish works quite brilliantly on FP2.

saw you had a hacking weekend :-)
how do sensors work in FP2 ?
Better then on the nexus5?
And powerconsumption: better then android?

abranson

2016-04-12 06:38

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by eekkelund (Post 1503297)

Yes it was announced 21 of March.
https://twitter.com/Fairphone/status/711873870748323840

Also in the reply to that same tweet they said that they are working to get commercial parts of Sailfish to work on FP2.

Thanks, that's all I needed to know. My next phone will be a Sailfish Fairphone 2. The question is, can I buy one now, and flash it with commercial Sailfish when it's ready, or will I have to wait? I don't want to get stranded on a community port, but I don't mind paying a little extra for a Sailfish license when the time comes.

I've asked them on twitter, but no response so far

Feathers McGraw

2016-04-12 07:21

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by abranson (Post 1503352)

If you have a Jolla can't you transfer the relevant RPMs? Obviously that's not ideal (or strictly legal?), but better than nothing - i don't think you'd be completely stuck without the commerical bits on a community port.

m4r0v3r

2016-04-12 08:18

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

Maps transfers fine, exchange does not.

abranson

2016-04-12 08:47

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1503354)

Dalvik is dependent on the kernel version, which I'm hoping is a lot newer on the fairphone than the jolla. I'm sure there are plenty of other potential problems too, especially with upgrades. I think I'd rather wait for the official support without some sort of guarantee that I'll be able to switch without any of those shenanigans.

Feathers McGraw

2016-04-12 12:01

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by abranson (Post 1503358)

Dalvik is dependent on the kernel version

Thanks, I didn't know that. Anyone know why?

nodevel

2016-04-12 12:16

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1503369)

Thanks, I didn't know that. Anyone know why?

I don't think that this is a limitation of Alien Dalvik itself, but rather an outcome of having only binaries.

IIRC, part of Alien Dalvik on SailfishOS is a kernel module - if we had the sources, we could build it for newer kernel versions or use something like DKMS, but as we only have the binary, we are limited to one kernel version.

On top of that, I've read somewhere (if I remember it right) that porting Alien Dalvik is comparable to porting SailfishOS itself, as they are many device-specific problems (like sensors), so that's another limitation of having it only in binary form, not just the kernel version limitation.

nh1402

2016-04-12 12:16

Re: Sailfish OS on Fairphone 2

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Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw (Post 1503369)

Thanks, I didn't know that. Anyone know why?

That doesn't sound accurate to me. Alien Dalvik maybe, but definitely not Dalvik.