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stickymick 2018-11-08 18:51

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Hope they fixed the screen blanking issue on the Xperia X.
It was happening quite a lot in some apps.

And I left a request on the MeeCast page in Openrepos for a font colour changer within the app for use with light themes.

reinob 2018-11-12 13:31

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
FYI, I just updated my (daughter's) Jolla 1 to 3.0.0.8. Went without a hitch.

mscion 2018-11-12 16:07

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
I updated my Jolla tablet and it seems ok. Android apps seem to work ok. Like the new ambience.

ezameht 2018-11-12 18:14

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Is there a patch to disable the new middle-swipe to top menu?
I just want to close close apps and lock the device with a swipe from the top.
Currently staying on 2.2.1.18 ...

Bundyo 2018-11-12 18:47

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Forgot to mention that Gemini updated to 3.0.0.8 without any problems.

mgfm99 2018-11-12 18:58

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1550552)
Forgot to mention that Gemini updated to 3.0.0.8 without any problems.

But have you found a way to deal with the orientation of the home screen?

I find that the home screen and settings insist on being in portrait orientation which is rather unhelpful with the Gemini.

If you apply the fix mentioned on TJC wiki, the settings dialogue loses all information on any of its sub-menus.
(The crowding of icons on the launch display is fixed in this build, in contrast to 3.0.0.5.)

carlosgonz 2018-11-12 20:01

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1550551)
Is there a patch to disable the new middle-swipe to top menu?
I just want to close close apps and lock the device with a swipe from the top.
Currently staying on 2.2.1.18 ...

i think not need patches, in the current 3.0 swipe-top-menu default state; you can do both option like close-app and lock-device on swipe. enjoy sf 3.0

Bundyo 2018-11-12 20:31

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mgfm99 (Post 1550553)
But have you found a way to deal with the orientation of the home screen?

I find that the home screen and settings insist on being in portrait orientation which is rather unhelpful with the Gemini.

If you apply the fix mentioned on TJC wiki, the settings dialogue loses all information on any of its sub-menus.
(The crowding of icons on the launch display is fixed in this build, in contrast to 3.0.0.5.)

I use patchmanager with Allow all orientations patch.

ezameht 2018-11-12 21:51

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1550557)
i think not need patches, in the current 3.0 swipe-top-menu default state; you can do both option like close-app and lock-device on swipe. enjoy sf 3.0

If I understood the release log for 3.0 correctly, a swipe from the top in the middle-area opens the top-menu. a top swipe at the edge (left or right) closes the app. I would like to close an open app with a swipe from the top middle-area. Is the possible?

carlosgonz 2018-11-12 22:39

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1550565)
If I understood the release log for 3.0 correctly, a swipe from the top in the middle-area opens the top-menu. a top swipe at the edge (left or right) closes the app. I would like to close an open app with a swipe from the top middle-area. Is the possible?

yes. try the new face of the fastest/smartest fish in the world! :)

peterleinchen 2018-11-12 22:51

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1550566)
yes. try the new face of the fastest/smartest fish in the world! :)

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
is the only word coming to my mind.

Simple question: how?
afaik there is not patch yet (but may come...)

carlosgonz 2018-11-12 23:20

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1550568)
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
is the only word coming to my mind.

Simple question: how?
afaik there is not patch yet (but may come...)

1) the user is not clear how the new swipe-top-menu work in sf3.0, so afaik he is asking for a patch to keep sf2.0 swipe-top-menu in sf3.0. i just helping, due no body did.

2) on this: yes. try the new face of the fastest/smartest fish in the world!.
i'm basically telling him to go to sailfish 3 without fear. in a pretty terminology.
are you clear now @peterleinchen? :D

pichlo 2018-11-13 07:45

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
So, what you are saying is, every change is good, is it?

velox 2018-11-13 08:08

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1550583)
So, what you are saying is, every change is good, is it?

You're obviously just trying to poke some discussional fun here, but let me just translate from a non-native speaker (well, I am, as well): Nope, he does not. It's more of a "I think this change is pretty good. You might be able to appreciate it if you tried it for a while."
It may be phrased misleadingly, I really agree, but reacting this way is just as bad a style, if not worse, IMHO.

pichlo 2018-11-13 08:39

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
That's not how I read carlosgonz's post. It sounded like, "embrace the brave new world of SFOS 3, whatever it brings". But I could be wrong.

To be honest, I am sitting on the fence (for the non-native speakers, it means, "I am undecided which side to take"). I did not like the change from a single swipe down in home screen to turn off the display to swipe down and tap, but I got used to it. I do not like this change either but I am already getting used to it too.

ezameht 2018-11-13 10:00

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
@pichlo: there is a patch for a single swipe down to turn off the display: Restore swipe to lock; or Topmenu control (web-catalog in patchmanager)

@carlosconz: I installed 3.0 on my Jolla1 and could not find an option to disable the swipe-from-top in middle area to top-menu.

velox 2018-11-13 10:08

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1550593)
@pichlo: there is a patch for a single swipe down to turn off the display: Restore swipe to lock; or Topmenu control (web-catalog in patchmanager)

@carlosconz: I installed 3.0 on my Jolla1 and could not find an option to disable the swipe-from-top in middle area to top-menu.

Agreed, I am using Topmenu control and it works nicely.
There is no option to disable or swap the two gestures.

juiceme 2018-11-14 09:08

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1550055)
Anyone else noticed this on Xperia X at all?
When using an app in landscape and pulling up the apps screen the icon spacing goes pear shaped
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps1aunfyka.png

Ahh, I just only now noticed that this has been fixed in 3.0.0.8 which I updated to yesterday.
Now the icon spacings are nice and clean! :)

juiceme 2018-11-14 09:14

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1550565)
If I understood the release log for 3.0 correctly, a swipe from the top in the middle-area opens the top-menu. a top swipe at the edge (left or right) closes the app. I would like to close an open app with a swipe from the top middle-area. Is the possible?

I kind-of like the new design that brings up the menu on middle pull and closes the open application on corner pull.
That eases my life as it saves me a 2-gesture chain; I used to first do a side-swipe to get from an application to the main menu and then top-swipe to lock the device.

Now if it only would minimize the foreground app at the same time when it locks the device, so that the next time I unlock it I'd get directly to the main screen!
This is so crucial to me I am even considering to patch it so :p

TMavica 2018-11-14 10:36

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
juiceme when have ubiboot in XA2? lol

juiceme 2018-11-14 11:00

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1550655)
juiceme when have ubiboot in XA2? lol

Well, I suppose it could be done without major hiccups pretty easily; after all when starting up the mer-boat a device already is pretty much in miantanance mode similar to ubiboot, there is minimal initramfs running without booting to GUI.

It would not be that difficult to build the kernel/OS selection GUI and kexec the new kernel and environment.

ezameht 2018-11-14 18:41

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550651)
I kind-of like the new design that brings up the menu on middle pull and closes the open application on corner pull.
That eases my life as it saves me a 2-gesture chain; I used to first do a side-swipe to get from an application to the main menu and then top-swipe to lock the device.

Now if it only would minimize the foreground app at the same time when it locks the device, so that the next time I unlock it I'd get directly to the main screen!
This is so crucial to me I am even considering to patch it so :p

You make a good point! I could get used to that design.
A patch for going back to the main screen after unlocking would be much appreciated.

peterleinchen 2018-11-14 20:30

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1550670)
You make a good point! I could get used to that design.
A patch for going back to the main screen after unlocking would be much appreciated.

Do I understand right?
On SFOS3 after unlocking you always have last used app open?
So you want back old sfos2 behaviour?

peterleinchen 2018-11-14 20:32

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550656)
Well, I suppose it could be done without major hiccups pretty easily; after all when starting up the mer-boat a device already is pretty much in miantanance mode similar to ubiboot, there is minimal initramfs running without booting to GUI.

It would not be that difficult to build the kernel/OS selection GUI and kexec the new kernel and environment.

Oh! :cool:
Please go ahead and I may be your guinea pig :D

carlosgonz 2018-11-14 20:58

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1550680)
Oh! be your guinea pig :D

blablabla blabla bla
is the only word coming to my mind :)

carlosgonz 2018-11-14 21:07

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ezameht (Post 1550670)
You make a good point! I could get used to that design.
A patch for going back to the main screen after unlocking would be much appreciated.

i was not clear what you want, but look like that ur features could be better coming in SF 3.0.1 SUPERCHANGED. early dec.
current release SF 3.0.0 HALLOWEEN :D

juiceme 2018-11-15 05:13

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1550679)
Do I understand right?
On SFOS3 after unlocking you always have last used app open?
So you want back old sfos2 behaviour?

Nope, in SFOS2 it also worked like that, the foreground app stayed on top when you locked the device. (or else I remember it wrong, mind you I have been using SFOS3 for more than 2 weeks now and cannot really remember... :p)

juiceme 2018-11-15 05:14

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlosgonz (Post 1550681)
blablabla blabla bla
is the only word coming to my mind :)

Can you share why?

pichlo 2018-11-15 06:32

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550684)
Nope, in SFOS2 it also worked like that, the foreground app stayed on top when you locked the device.

It did? :confused:

It is possible, I suppose. But since you had to go to home screen first to lock the screen anyway, it was only exposed by accident, when the screen locked itself due to a timeout. Which happens pretty much never :p

I for one welcome the fact that when I unlock a thing - be it a desktop PC, a phone or a garden shed - I find it in exactly the same state as it was before I locked it. Why would anyone want anything else is beyond me.

peterleinchen 2018-11-15 06:50

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550684)
Nope, in SFOS2 it also worked like that, the foreground app stayed on top when you locked the device. (or else I remember it wrong, mind you I have been using SFOS3 for more than 2 weeks now and cannot really remember... :p)

As pichlo said. Or almost ;)
Locking the device can be done via
- home screen, swipe down, push lock
- pushing power button (JollaC)
- timeout

In all cases you go to "main screen" after unlocking if you have waited for some amount of time, around 1minute or so (did not time it).
In the latter two cases if you unlocked within that time you came back to the last used app when swiping the lock screen from right to left.

juiceme 2018-11-15 08:31

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
OK, I'll clarify my take on this.

On SFOS2: I'm using an application and want to lock the device.
  • 1.) I can do swipe-from-side & swipe-from-top
    The foreground application is minimized and device is locked
  • 2.) I can push the power button
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked
  • 3.) I can double-push the power button
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked for good (needs security code when unlocking)

On SFOS3: I'm using an application and want to lock the device.
  • 1.) I can do swipe-from-top-middle
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked
  • 2.) I can push the power button
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked
  • 3.) I can double-push the power button
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked for good (needs security code when unlocking)

Now the thing is that most of the time I want the foreground application to minimize when I lock the device, not always but most of the time. (navigation comes to mind when I don't want it to minimize)

As SFOS3 provides locking straight from single topswipe, it would be so nice if it also did the minimize at the same time. I can live with locking-by-pushing-powerbutton in thoise cases I want to leave the top application visible...

juiceme 2018-11-15 08:35

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
I just now noticed you actually said

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1550689)
In all cases you go to "main screen" after unlocking if you have waited for some amount of time, around 1minute or so (did not time it).
In the latter two cases if you unlocked within that time you came back to the last used app when swiping the lock screen from right to left.

I don't think it ever went to main screen however long you waited, hours, to the next day, ...?
On SFOS2 you always got back the way that top application is visible if you let screen time out or pushed power button to lock it.

pichlo 2018-11-15 09:20

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550690)
On SFOS3: I'm using an application and want to lock the device.
  • 1.) I can do swipe-from-top-middle
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked
  • 2.) I can push the power button
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked
  • 3.) I can double-push the power button
    The foreground application is not minimized and device is locked for good (needs security code when unlocking)

I think you forgot:
  • 4.) I can do swipe-from-side & swipe-from-top, like I did in SFOS2
    The foreground application is minimized and device is locked

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550690)
Now the thing is that most of the time I want the foreground application to minimize when I lock the device

It's an unsolvable mystery to me why on earth would anyone want that, but hey, who am I to judge. To each his own :D

peterleinchen 2018-11-15 11:58

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550691)
I just now noticed you actually said



I don't think it ever went to main screen however long you waited, hours, to the next day, ...?
On SFOS2 you always got back the way that top application is visible if you let screen time out or pushed power button to lock it.

Yep, true. :rolleyes:
Mixed that 1minute with double-tap feature after locking, i.e. after locking and double-tapping within a minute or so it unlocked to the same app.

What does it do if you double-tap and swipe from left to right?

pichlo 2018-11-15 13:21

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1550694)
What does it do if you double-tap and swipe from left to right?

In my case, presents the screen to enter the unlock code :)

And then goes to the events view, minimising all the apps.

juiceme 2018-11-15 13:25

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1550694)
Yep, true. :rolleyes:
Mixed that 1minute with double-tap feature after locking, i.e. after locking and double-tapping within a minute or so it unlocked to the same app.

What does it do if you double-tap and swipe from left to right?

Ah, that seems to be an inconsistency!
1.) If you had no foreground app open (are in main screen), it shows up the notifications screen
2.) If you had a foreground app open, it flashes the notifications screen briefly (~20ms) and immediately scrolls to main screen and then pops up the active application to foreground!

The case 2 sure is a bug!

pichlo 2018-11-15 13:36

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550702)
2.) If you had a foreground app open, it flashes the notifications screen briefly (~20ms) and immediately scrolls to main screen and then pops up the active application to foreground!

It would indeed be a bug if it were true. I cannot reproduce it. It always goes to the events/notifications/whateveryouwanttocallit screen.

juiceme 2018-11-15 15:00

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1550705)
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550702)
2.) If you had a foreground app open, it flashes the notifications screen briefly (~20ms) and immediately scrolls to main screen and then pops up the active application to foreground!

It would indeed be a bug if it were true. I cannot reproduce it. It always goes to the events/notifications/whateveryouwanttocallit screen.

Well there's one thing you are overlooking here and it is the type-of-device.
I understand you are using sbj1 and I am on xperiax :p

juiceme 2018-11-15 15:29

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550702)
2.) If you had a foreground app open, it flashes the notifications screen briefly (~20ms) and immediately scrolls to main screen and then pops up the active application to foreground!

Curiouser and curiouser!

It seems this bug only manifests when it is the Sailfish Browser that is the foreground application!
If anything else is on foreground, the device behaves nicely and enters right into the events screen!

pichlo 2018-11-15 15:30

Re: Sailfish 3.0.0.5 Lemmenjoki EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550712)
Well there's one thing you are overlooking here and it is the type-of-device.

Not overlooking, omitting deliberately. Because this is such a high level UI thing that if a device type makes a difference then the OS is seriously, totally messed up. I could not believe that Jolla could do that, could they?


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