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ajalkane 2018-12-06 13:12

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1551479)
I have a messed up browser on J1 and have to do "killall sailfish-browser" all the blooming time. Like pretty much after every use that lasts more than a few minutes. But never to the point of steady LEDs. It must be a SailX thing.

I think I've had to do something like that only once on SailX. And I use the browser daily.

Perhaps it depends on visited sites, and I happen to visit such that don't cause problems.

Kabouik 2018-12-06 13:21

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robthebold (Post 1551460)
I end up rebooting SailfishX on the Xperiax once a week or so when the browser gets messed up enough that it won't work at all, or worse: renders the phone unresponsive with a steady green or red LED. Like mosen it sometimes requires the red-button (power and volume-up) reset.

As far as Stellarium, version 0.3-1 from openrepos works fine on X for me (the documented landscape issue notwithstanding).

ed. Forgot to mention the rare occasional spontaneous reboots that seem to only occur in the middle of the night when that damn Sony white screen is bright enough to wake me up.

Yeah, I found out here that a new version has been published on Openrepos, I was using another one and didn't know there was now an alternative. Thanks!

As for N26, version 3.9 downloaded from Aptoide seems to work. The application is stamped as trusted for this version, but I am still not so confident about using a banking application uploaded by a user on Aptoide, even though it successfully passed the malware checks. I don't understand however why the version that I had on my Jolla C (whatever version it is) refuses to install on Sailfish X.

merpl 2018-12-07 08:34

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Will Sailfish X work without problem on the XA2 Ultra? (higher resolution)

Is android support coming? I wonder why it's not just a slightly tweaked rebuild.

Wolda 2018-12-07 20:21

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1551488)
Yeah, I found out here that a new version has been published on Openrepos, I was using another one and didn't know there was now an alternative. Thanks!

As for N26, version 3.9 downloaded from Aptoide seems to work. The application is stamped as trusted for this version, but I am still not so confident about using a banking application uploaded by a user on Aptoide, even though it successfully passed the malware checks. I don't understand however why the version that I had on my Jolla C (whatever version it is) refuses to install on Sailfish X.

Just a quick (related?) remark: some Canadian banks software (I recall the TD one for sure, and maybe also ScotiaBank?) refused to install on Sailfish X (Xperia X) without any verbose explanation, albeit it was happily working on J1. I remember mentioning it here but never really got anywhere https://together.jolla.com/question/...dalvik-issues/ . I moved out from Canada, so I don't pro-actively care anymore.

Metsämies 2019-05-07 11:21

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Is it possible to install Sailfish X to XA2 without SIM-card?

Just testing first..

pagis 2019-05-07 12:21

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1556698)
Is it possible to install Sailfish X to XA2 without SIM-card?

Just testing first..

yes it is possible

DrYak 2019-05-07 12:22

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1556698)
Is it possible to install Sailfish X to XA2 without SIM-card?

Yes, *BUT* :

- when you put a SIM card inside an Android phone, Android will try to make an OTA upgrade of various things in the firmware running on the cell modem.
- Sailfish X is incapable of doing that (only the upgrades that the firmware currently running on the SIM card and inside the cell modem is able to perform autonomously will be upgraded. Upgrades that rely on Android won't be done)
- back with the Xperia X, I did directly flash Sailfish X and I did experience some 3G connection problems (specially when roaming). The official solution according to Jolla was to backup Sailfish, re-install Android, perform the cell-modem firmware upgrade by using the SIM under Android, and re-install and restore Sailfish.
- with my Xperia XA2, I did first boot android with a SIM, and did not have 3G/4G problem.

So I would advise you to first:
- plug your future SIM into the smartphone first.
- let the phone download its modem upgrades (something along the lines of "Optimizing connection to your current provider" displayed on screen)
- reboot the phone as instructed by the upgrade procedure.
- now you can remove your SIM and do your tests.

Metsämies 2019-05-07 16:44

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Only problem is that I must cut sim to nano size. And if I am not satisfied with Sailfish X and go back to my old phone, I must plaster it back.

Maybe I´ll try with prepaid card..

mikecomputing 2019-05-11 15:16

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Can't unlock my new ****ing XA2 bought on amazon even if developer mode says it can be rooted it is fake and impossible.

$ fastboot devices
CQ3001L1WG fastboot
$ fastboot oem unlock 0xxxxxxxxxxxx
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s



I will never buy sony garbage phones they deserve to DIE :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

They can go f themselfs.

Metsämies 2019-05-11 15:25

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1556864)
Can't unlock my new ****ing XA2 bought on amazon even if developer mode says it can be rooted it is fake and impossible.

$ fastboot devices
CQ3001L1WG fastboot
$ fastboot oem unlock 0xxxxxxxxxxxx
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s



I will never buy sony garbage phones they deserve to DIE :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

They can go f themselfs.

Did you try with USB3? I had problem with it. Try with USB2.

mikecomputing 2019-05-11 16:00

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1556865)
Did you try with USB3? I had problem with it. Try with USB2.

Thanks that fixed it. Now it is unlocked...

kinggo 2019-05-11 19:22

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and that nonsense really should stop. I mean, USB 3 is more than a decade all...... Most new laptops come with just USB 3.1. On the other hand, most phones are still USB 2 and data transfer works on USB 3 but for anything over ADB you need USB 2.
But hey...... we have 4k disply on 6" :rolleyes: And we have USB-C port. Which came out 10 year after USB 3 was introduced. But we are using it just for USB 2. :rolleyes: effing *****s. It's not just SONY.

mikecomputing 2019-05-12 12:36

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Cant decide if I should sell the damn phone or not. I just bought it cause of sick of ugly pace of **** android. However I ****ing need the bankid and it does not work on sailfishos even after instal google service :(. You have to signup for bankid using QR code and have google service installed but also the camera must work. But it seems bankid just freezing when try activate the camera. Any one seen similar issues with android apps using camera?

The only must have android apps I need work is bankid and swish and postnord. Non of them works. :/

I am damn suprised that the banks ar so f.. dumb and expect everyone to have a google play enabled phone or IOS to pay their bills. This should be something EU should do something about!!!

kinggo 2019-05-12 13:21

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It's not the same for every bank. Now I have (still) stock XZ2 but before that I had moto x play with custom ROM (AOSP extended), so, rooted, no sign of google on it (I was using f-droid and yalp) and my app which I mostly used just to get an authentication code and then the rest in the browser was working just fine. And bank is part of intensa sanpaolo group so not something small and local.

Pim 2019-05-12 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1556896)
I am damn suprised that the banks ar so f.. dumb and expect everyone to have a google play enabled phone or IOS to pay their bills. This should be something EU should do something about!!!

I totally agree with this.

peterleinchen 2019-05-12 15:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pim (Post 1556904)
I totally agree with this.

So do I.

Just received a letter from a bank telling me they need to enable two-method authentication for log-in. Talking always about password and 'app'. This two-method log-in (two out of three) being a new EU regulation coming into force in autumn 2019!?? :confused:

Seems we all will be cursed soon(TM). :mad:

Metsämies 2019-05-12 16:03

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1556905)
So do I.

Just received a letter from a bank telling me they need to enable two-method authentication for log-in. Talking always about password and 'app'. This two-method log-in (two out of three) being a new EU regulation coming into force in autumn 2019!?? :confused:

Seems we all will be cursed soon(TM). :mad:

It can be done in different ways. Via app, sms or dumb pin calculator.

peterleinchen 2019-05-12 16:38

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metsämies (Post 1556906)
It can be done in different ways. Via app, sms or dumb pin calculator.

It can be done in different ways, yes.
But carrying a pin calculatod with you?
SMS would be fine but sould need to be a different device (my experiencs with another bank!)! So carrying a second device.
Methods could be
something you know
something you have
soemthing you be

juiceme 2019-05-12 17:41

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1556910)
It can be done in different ways, yes.
But carrying a pin calculatod with you?
SMS would be fine but sould need to be a different device (my experiencs with another bank!)! So carrying a second device.
Methods could be
something you know
something you have
soemthing you be

I actually am contemplating going with the physical PIN-calculator way. You don't have to carry it with you, you know... There are ways like hacking it so that it sits safe @home and is connected to a local server where you can connect to it via ssh :D

Reminds me what I did once with an old-style RSA-keyfob, the kind which has changing 8-digit code on LCD screen. I fitted it in a box with webcam, then I could use the codes where-ever I was!

peterleinchen 2019-05-12 19:13

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Soumds 'a bit' like foiling the safety idea behind, or? ;)

Bundyo 2019-05-12 19:20

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
I'm using a physical PIN calculator for my bank for several years now - it's not so bad. :)

Amboss 2019-05-13 09:04

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1556864)
Can't unlock my new ****ing XA2 bought on amazon even if developer mode says it can be rooted it is fake and impossible.

$ fastboot devices
CQ3001L1WG fastboot
$ fastboot oem unlock 0xxxxxxxxxxxx
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s



I will never buy sony garbage phones they deserve to DIE :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

They can go f themselfs.

I had to put some -i option in there. Can't remember the code following it. Have to look it up at home

EDIT:
found this one on the web:
Code:

fastboot -i 0x0fce oem unlock
I my memory it was 0x29... but my memory fails me lately. :D

mikecomputing 2019-05-13 17:53

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1556901)
It's not the same for every bank. Now I have (still) stock XZ2 but before that I had moto x play with custom ROM (AOSP extended), so, rooted, no sign of google on it (I was using f-droid and yalp) and my app which I mostly used just to get an authentication code and then the rest in the browser was working just fine. And bank is part of intensa sanpaolo group so not something small and local.


All banks in sweden using bankid to identify you as person. Infact it is even worse: Almost all online payment you do in sweden you expect to have bankid. It's used to "secure you are the person buy it". Also can be used to login at dentist, hospital etc.. And most people do.

Now the idea itself is good. To identify with phone since that something most people have. BUT it should not depend on Android or IOS it should work on EVERY damn phone available including "dumb phones" and phones for old people who prefer non touch garbage and instead has phones with big physical buttons. For a critical thing like bankid it must work for everyone!

They could have used some kind of open source block chain instead of their crap solution. Its just plain stupidity. When I think of it why the freak should google have peoples info every time they go to dentist? I mean how do I know they API does not get sent to Google/Apple? How can we trust that API? Its just...


Also history repeats I remember around 2000 we had similar issues you could not use Linux to login at the banks because they did not trust Firefox and Linux and they only trusted Internet explorer and Windows not even MacOS was supported back then /facepalm...

They never learn. And most people does not care. They say "it works for me, stop being geek go buy Android".

Then in some year Google changes API again in dish all Android versions except latest. (As they did last summer) and as customer you yet again have to buy latest and coolest pace of garbage Android device. And of course old people, or young without a job, has low budget can't go buy a new f... device every year just because the banks are *****s.

So sick of it.

/bashing off...

It does help sitting here bashing. sorry...

mikecomputing 2019-05-13 18:07

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 1556920)
I'm using a physical PIN calculator for my bank for several years now - it's not so bad. :)

I also has that variant but it does not work when using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swish_(payment) , or identify yourself at skatteverket etc.. So that is not a solution.

Also those PIN calculators is a huge joke. Especially for older people since you have to put plenty of numbers and replies just to login also the screen is tiny even for my eyes.

Amboss 2019-05-14 07:28

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1556972)
Also those PIN calculators is a huge joke. Especially for older people since you have to put plenty of numbers and replies just to login also the screen is tiny even for my eyes.

I hold my TAN calculator to the screen over a flickering gif that transfers all those numbers. I can then check on build in digit display the transfered numbers and get a 6-digit TAN afterwards.

kinggo 2019-05-14 07:55

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1556969)
And most people does not care.

end there's your answer to all the questions why everything sucks. People will take convenience over everything else without thinking. No one thinks about what may come after.Or at least not until it comes.

pichlo 2019-05-14 08:02

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1557003)
No one thinks about what may come after.Or at least not until it comes.

It's even worse than that. Even when it comes, the vast majority will not put two and two together and realize it came because of their actions (or lack thereof).

PamNor 2019-05-14 08:23

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In Norway i use mobile bankid. It works great. No app or browser needed. Android app from S bank works also. Everything running on Jolla 1 and Jolla C

juiceme 2019-05-14 12:26

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PamNor (Post 1557006)
In Norway i use mobile bankid. It works great. No app or browser needed. Android app from S bank works also. Everything running on Jolla 1 and Jolla C

How does this mobile bankid work, is it based on sms?
Or one of those things that's stored on simcard?

PamNor 2019-05-14 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1557016)
How does this mobile bankid work, is it based on sms?
Or one of those things that's stored on simcard?

I think it's stored on simcard.

mikecomputing 2019-05-19 16:36

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Today I was very near go back to Android since Dalvik spotify seems not to work.

BUT then I found this:

https://openrepos.net/content/wdehoog/hutspot
and https://openrepos.net/content/wdehoog/librespot

So now one of my problems is solved but bankid, swish, still problem. So I have to keep my Android also.

Btw I think we need a good telegram with support for send photos would be nice. There is a promising telegram client in openrepos but it missing some must have features such as send pictures.

Also an matrix client would be nice.

And a working nextcloud app. The one downloaded in store did not work.

Now why on earth is librespot and telegra'me, not in the official store? This is something people uses for got sake.

Jolla could kill librem in five minutes if they just was more about privacy.

Phosh is a huge joke compared to SFOS. It no where near being something. I mean GTK its not near touch friendly as QML.

SFOS should ge ported to librem5 if that phone ever gets released.

Another thing I hate with SFOS3 is one can't swipe to close app? Why on earth did they remove that!? Is there anyway get that feature back again with some tweaking? Please say there is?

mikecomputing 2019-05-19 16:38

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PamNor (Post 1557006)
In Norway i use mobile bankid. It works great. No app or browser needed. Android app from S bank works also. Everything running on Jolla 1 and Jolla C

Are you saying I should move to Norway ;)

tmi 2019-05-19 20:24

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1557172)
Another thing I hate with SFOS3 is one can't swipe to close app? Why on earth did they remove that!? Is there anyway get that feature back again with some tweaking? Please say there is?

Huh? Is this something XA2 specific or did I miss something?
I can close apps fine by swiping down (J1 and ported tablet). Just do it near the corner... either one, doesn't matter.

lantern 2019-05-19 21:32

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in other news, google pulled the plug on huawei's android official support

they should've known better and adapted Sailfish earlier.

PamNor 2019-05-19 21:37

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Why not, if you need a working bank app. Try Skandiabanken.

ste-phan 2019-05-20 07:26

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1557179)
in other news, google pulled the plug on huawei's android official support

they should've known better and adapted Sailfish earlier.

Earlier? Do you mean right now they are adapting it?

Anyway, that's great news.
With the support of Huawei Sailfish could turn into the Harmattan it is softly derived from (not depending on some Android driver sub-layer if I remember correctly)
Another one of those sanctions that could in fact make the perceived losing end stronger and in this case turn the tide for Sailfish OS.
Thanks for a first necessary step in Making the Mobile Phone Industry Great Again, USA! (aka fix what you've broken)

lantern 2019-05-20 08:26

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no, they building their own huawei os
what a waste of energy and resources...

kinggo 2019-05-20 08:31

Re: Sailfish X for XA2 variants
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1557179)
in other news, google pulled the plug on huawei's android official support

they should've known better and adapted Sailfish earlier.

this really should tell something to stupid EU that gave up on any OS/HW production and now we entirely depend on US and Asian solutions.
Meanwhile they debate on the size and shape of the vegetables :rolleyes:

pichlo 2019-05-20 09:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1557191)
this really should tell something to stupid EU that gave up on any OS/HW production and now we entirely depend on US and Asian solutions.
Meanwhile they debate on the size and shape of the vegetables :rolleyes:

This is straying too deeply into politics but:
1. Would you really want the government producing an OS? Really? It is a rhetorical question but if you wish to answer it, please think about it before you do.
2. That vegetable thing is a myth. A popular one but still a myth.

kinggo 2019-05-20 10:00

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1. No. But let's be realistic here. Every government is way to incompetent for something like that anyway. What I meant was OS and HW that does not depend on US and Asia. At least not 100%.
2. I know. That one was just a false example of plenty other existing regulations in place that are equally stupid and pointless as that one.


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