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@Fellfrosch You missed my entry :)

https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...3&postcount=46

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That's what you get for not embedding the picture :D
It's not that difficult:

https://i.imgur.com/JMkGKQo.jpg

My vote would still go to mscion :p

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Actually it is - for some of us.

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Didn't find anything high, or lack of imagination, but I can still vote.

5. nonsuch

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My vote goes to #13 mosen

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I vote #5 nonsuch

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Sorry for that. I edited the overview.

My vote goes to catbus' picture (#6). Even so I still have no clue what it really is. But maybe that's pert of the fascination.

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"from the planet "FOOR-DWAD4.207V" <- There is an explanation. If you use a little imagination and remember my earlier pictures. Which I have always taken from my yard... or... car ;)

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My vote goes to
12. juiceme
http://www.swagman.org/juice/skykittens.png

And a special mention to mosen because Lokalpatriotismus and "the Ruhrpott". It's also a really nice picture.

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My vote goes to
12. juiceme - SFOS/XperiaX, cropping in Gimp
http://www.swagman.org/juice/skykittens.png

And I also like
3. DDark - Pro1, Stock Camera, unedited
https://i.ibb.co/XxFmz6m/09927-EC6-F...-A56388-B6.jpg

Thank you. Best wishes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per aspera ad astra...

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1. Maemish - BlessN900 with just a slight crop from the sides
- The church stands tall and high... or maybe it is the statue of czar Alexander which is high up there? Nicely balanced night shot with the lightshow.

2. Ken-Young - Andromeda Galaxy taken with a Pixel 4 XL in "astrophotography mode"
- Now that one is high indeed! I had no idea that Pixel is capable of such shots. if this has indeed been taken without additional optics then it is very impressive!

3. DDark - Pro1, Stock Camera, unedited
- High vantage, nice building masses and interesting futuristic detail in the "skyship" thing up there on the skysrapers!

4. mscion - Huawei Mate 20 pro. No effects.
- Very good compostiton showing the contrasting old and new "high"... The pigeon really tops the bill, awesome! Too bad the size of the image is just too small, if it was larger we'd have absolute winner here!

5. nonsuch - Taken with a OnePlus 3, Open Camera. Resized & slightly sharpened the top half in GIMP.
- This is GOOD! The way the branches seem to form a kind of vortex tha stands clearly away from the trunk is awesome!

6. catbus - Nokia N9 - Scaled by Gimp. Lightning by: "Almost full moon"
- A bit difficult to determine WHAT this actually is? Judging from history I am somehow led to believe it might be a reflection of night sky on an antomobile bonnett?

7. jellyroll - Phone: BlackBerry Passport Stock camera, Mental state: Sober
- So supposedly one needs to be pretty HIGH and FAR OUT to see these guys?

8. ric9K - N900 on fcamera, manual focus, manual white balance, manual exposure time. Developed with darktable: vignette, monochrome, tiny orange virage in highlights, 5200 ISO grain.
-What can I say, it's not really high but the grain indeed is fantastic!

9. Pentona - Xpera 10 Plus, cropped only, with the unwanted and mysterious black dot pattern provided by the phone
- Yep, he's sailing high indeed. Nice capture against peaceful sky.

10. pichlo - Jolla 1
- Fits the theme well but I'd want to see more of the lovely house :)

11. Koiruus - Taken with Pro1, some exposure correction made with Google Photos
- A bit stretching the theme. really :)

12. juiceme - "Winter kittens climbing high in January", SFOS/XperiaX, cropping in Gimp
- The limitations of the XperiaX camera on SFOS are visible; even though the colors are natural and balanced the focusing is reallly crappy. (I just remembered that I also have the "advanced Camera" application also, have to check if that is better than the stock camera in this respect)

13. mosen - Pro¹ using Piggz Advanced Camera, some contrast added and cropped in Darktable.
- Good vantage point and beautifully curling river and parkside. Dark clouds add drame to the picture!

14. john_god - Samsung Galaxy J4+, no editing
- Again, stretching the theme. Otherwice very nice landscape.


Lots of really good pictures again. I was pondering between @ddark, @mscion and @catbus here... and my vote goes to 3. DDark
(I don't know what the building is but it sure looks nice!)

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My vote goes to n4, i like the building and bird in the sky. I also and to mention n5 i like that photo, the tree and sorrunding light.

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I vote for 13. mosen, since the photo makes me actually feel a bit acrophobic. Honorable mention to Maemish for getting that nice picture out of the good old N900!

And to juiceme's question above: the piggz advanced camera is at least most of the time better at focusing on the Xperia than stock, but never worse. The only reason I can think of not to use it is it's less "Sailfishy" in the interface. E.g. there's a button instead of a swipe to view previously taken photo.

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marina bay sands if you mean the middle one

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Exactly that one!

Singapore sure has changed a lot since I last was there, back in -83... :eek:

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https://talk.maemo.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1580564095If it still would be a competition I would post this. I have probably posted a better picture in better light once before. Now I have just first sat in togtal darkness in Finland in my friends summercottage only in the light of a fireplace having a chat. After that three hours playing canasta.

While playing I noticed this wall and the collation. We spent once three hours just measuring and watching what goes and where. For me everything is in their right place and watching this makes me feel high: not just how they are perfectly stationed in my and my friends eye but remembering of making it.

Edit: Didn't notice the upload failed. Had to make it smaller. Brightnesx and contrast both over +40. Taken with BlessN900 without flash.

Have been searfching in the fields today with metal detector with my friend. Couple of nails and some crap metal pieces. A lot of walking and fresh air. Also searched in the forest. Nothing. But now next to a fireplace and soon putting fire to the sauna. Feeling relaxed.

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2. Ken-Young - Andromeda Galaxy taken with a Pixel 4 XL in "astrophotography mode"
- Now that one is high indeed! I had no idea that Pixel is capable of such shots. if this has indeed been taken without additional optics then it is very impressive!

It was. Attached is a photo of the fancy setup I used. I'm *amazed* by how good the Google Astrophotography mode is. A single 4 minute exposure detects stars as faint as magnitude 10, 25 times fainter than what the best human eye can detect at the darkest site.

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And I would be even more amazed if you made this shot really at this position inside the city with all that stray light? :eek:

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I'm a little bit late. Anyway here are the results. I hope, I was not to high to count correctly:

Winner is juiceme with 6 votes
second and third with each 3 votes: nunsuch and mscion.

Congrats to jucieme. A well deserved win for a great shot!
Thanks to all participants for their great entries.
This time I missed to take a shot. Next time I'm also in again.:o

Please @juiceme announce the next theme in a new thread.

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No, I was way out in the countryside, in one of the best dark-sky areas in Iowa (which isn't saying much, Iowa doesn't have great viewing sites).

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Iowa! Are you caucusing?

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You betcha - we've gotta decide who the rest of the country gets to vote for. It's our duty.

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Sounds fantastic! Have fun!

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Now I don't do astrophotography, but what does one need of a site but darkness and a view of the sky? I'd think a field of stubble 10 miles off of I-80 in the winter would be pretty panoramic. Do you need a hill for a more distant horizon? Just curious.

Sentimentality moment alert: not nighttime shots, but some of my favorite N900 photos were taken in the Hawkeye state.

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Well, the most important thing is to get away from lights. Iowa doesn't have any really big cities, but it has lots of towns and even a town with a few hundred people will have enough outdoor lighting to spoil the darkness for miles around. Add to that the fact that nearly every farm has bright outdoor lighting outside of the farmhouse, and it becomes nearly impossible to find a place in Iowa with no light pollution.

Here's a light pollution map: https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#...FFFFFTFFFFFFFF As you can see in that map, there are *no* really dark areas in Iowa.

Another issue is transparency. In the summers, there's quite a bit of dust in the air in farm country, and that hurts. Also in the summer, the air is often very turbulent, which hurts "seeing". Things are better on the transparency and seeing fronts in the winter, but boy do you pay a price for that in comfort!

At least it's more scenic than Nebraska!

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https://live.staticflickr.com/7024/6...238f01f5_o.jpg

Although hella scenic, it should be known that everything about the photo is staged. The milieu is an intentionally preserved 19th century neighborhood (The Village of East Davenport) hosting an event called the "Antique Tractor Show". They also host a national Pontiac Fiero show in the Autumn, which I believe draws all the operable examples of the 1980s GM oddity -- I'm talking 90 or more!

Still super-fun for both me and my then 2-year-old.

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You are complaining about THAT??? You ain't seen nothing! I'll show you a light pollution (with a dash of overcast skies pretty much all the time)!

https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#...FFFFFTFFFFFFFF

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Announced topic for February, "Earth"
https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...01&postcount=1

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But to make it comparable you should use the same scaling:
https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#...FFFFFTFFFFFFFF

Which does not make it look better :eek: (including my position at the almost outmost right :()

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Prague? :)

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Nope :confused:
Attachment 40925
above image is inserted via upload attachments and inserting via the paper-clip icon (using ATTACH tags)

below image is inserted via full web link of formerly uploaded image (using IMG tags)
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1580749347

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That explains it. I've been racking my brains for the past two days.

This is how your link shows on my screen. Notice Prague at the right edge. Hence my question in post #110.

It must be a screen resolution thing or something.

https://talk.maemo.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1580812951



______________________________________________
(Please ignore the garbage below this line. It is there merely as a placeholder for the embedded image above.)

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Yep, smells like screen resolution detection and widening the map according to scale (nice feature!).

@pichlo: the garbage above can be avoided if one does not refer (IMG tags) the attachment within the post. Else it will be shown at bottom as linked description only..

So Inguess best way of attaching pictures is:
upload, get the full link of that attachment and insert a picture link into your post?

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That's what I did!

As far as I can tell, there are two ways of using an attachment:

1. Upload and don't touch it. That will end up with the attachments listed at the bottom of your post, like this. If the attachment is a picture, TMO will try to display it, like this.
   After juiceme's recent changes to picture size limits (thank you again, juiceme!), that may look like garbage because TMO does not scale such pictures to fit.
2. Upload and use the "[attach]" tag. This is the technique I used for years, for example here.
   Unfortunately, TMO does not scale pictures displayed this way either, resulting in artifacts like here or in your post above.

The only way to make TMO scale the picture is to use the "[img]" tag, for which you need a full URL. My post #112 used that technique: uploaded the attachment, grabbed its URL and used the "[img]" tag. That's the properly displayed image. The garbage at the bottom is the attachment displayed as per point 1 above.

As far as I know, there are only three ways of avoiding that garbage:

1. Downscale the image before uploading it as an attachment. Works in most cases but not all.
2. Use an external picture hosting service. I am ideologically opposed to that.
3. Upload it in a dummy post and then make another post in which you refer to the attachment in a way it can be embedded nicely. But that dummy post will still look like garbage.

I tried uploading attachments in the past without using them but I found they get automatically deleted, so orphaned attachments will not work.

Is there a proper solution? Well, yes, at least two. But both require some work on the side of our highly esteemed webmaster (juiceme, I bow to you again!).

1. Persuade TMO to scale all pictures, whether embedded as "[img]" or not. I suspect this is more work than option 2,
2. Remove the special case for handling picture attachments. I have absolutely zero objections to having all attachments listed like this, whether they are text files, archives or pictures. To display them as a picture, refer to them as "[img]" in your post.

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Oops, yes. That is what I meant but did not write:
using full link in IMG tags.

Vote for option #2 :)

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Hah! I was not as stupid as I believed I was when I tried to get the images without the crappy partial image being displayed. Hah! My self esteem is so high now!

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1, upload attachment
2. copy link from the file in "current attachments" section via right click
3. Add that awkward-non-jpg suffix link as IMG tag
3a. maybe hit preview post so you see composition
4. Remove attachment, file still stays on server.
5. Post Post

https://talk.maemo.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1580930872

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OK, let's have a look, if I got it right...

That's the entry I should have made last month, but I fear it's a little bit late:
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1580974956

By the way, there is still no February Theme for our competition. If Juiceme don't want to start a new competition, maybe one of the two second placed guys want to...???

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In my experience, this has NOT been the case. I can try to give it a go again:

https://talk.maemo.org/attachment.ph...1&d=1580976680

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The above post demonstrates my point. The attachment is NOT on the server any more.

Juiceme announced the February topic three days ago. It is, "Earth".