Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Thread on TJC created https://together.jolla.com/question/...ng-os-upgrade/

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

That's good to know. But still, the problem is that with WIFI on the MMS won't download. Would be much better if that was not the case, as I like to keep WIFI on, when indoors. I'm not sure if it's Sailfish OS or something else (T-Mobile). That's the reason I asked Pichlo. Just want to be able to recieve MMS with WIFI on.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

I'm not pretty sure but in my opinion, it's impossible to download MMS using WIFI.
To clarify, can you download MMS when WIFI is turned off?

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Sorry, it was in my previous comment. With WIFI off MMS downloads without a problem. I always have Mobile data on for different reasons and that is not an obstacle for receiving MMS. As you said I should receive it even without Mobile data on, which I didn't know.
Anyways, when I have Mobile reception from the provider and WIFI is on that is the only scenario when MMS doesn't download. Therefore I think it's a OS problem. WIFI on/off shouldn't interfere the MMS.
Thanks for opening the question on together.jolla.com. I will post there too.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

mosen: Thank you! I do not have a telegram account though.
How do I upgrade to Sailfish OS 3.3?
The same droid egl sink problem with show-frame affects jolla-gallery - any video being played shows black screen (while audio is totally fine).

Thank you. Best wishes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Per aspera ad astra...

P.S. I am trying to edit id tags of audio files, but I have no idea how to set cover art for an album.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

For Image tagging mp3 i found "MusicBrainz Picard" on desktop to be most convenient.
You can scan online DBs for cover art and mass assign them to folders with that.
If you got your own images you just want to assign, i use EasyTAG on linux.

To update sfos on any device i switched to use and recommend Olfs sfos-upgrade script since it checks for the known dealbreakers and has nice logging.

The less failsafe manual method is as always
Afaiu it is safe to update now that Adam fixed the camera issues yesterday, supplying the two commands @storma linked in the SFOS Pro¹ thread.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Thank you for these steps!
Update to 3.3.0.16 failed and left my XA2 with permanent flight mode and without network.
After these steps and reboot, I had to (repeat) update to 3.3.0.16 via command line https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a.../201836347#4.3
Few file conflicts had to be resolved.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

:'( ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

every other mobile OS ive ever seen uses the cellular data to download MMS, even when wifi is turned on. (android/ios/maemo/meego/tizen)

this bug was posted SIX years ago:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...-wifi-enabled/

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

version --dup on my Sailfish OS gives nothing provides libstdc++.so.6(CXXABI_1.3.9) needed by geoclue-provider-hybris-binder-0.2.28-1.4.5.jolla.armv7hl

zypper --verify gives product:# This file is copied as hw-release-0.0.1+master.20200502113015.be0be38.2.analogous to os-release is not installableSolution 1: deinstallation of product:# This file is copied as hw-release-0.0.1+master.20200502113015.be0be38.2.analogous to os-release

No idea what to do about either of these messages...

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Are you two with the same provider? Maybe the default settings for that provider are wrong. I can receive MMS regardless whether on WiFi or not.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

@N77 and @wolke what is your provider?
Can you show your mms apn settings?

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

About MMS and Vodafone in The Netherlands: on the Jolla 1 it appeared I could not receive MMS messages. Contacting their helpdesk learned that their system had classified it as "an unknown telephone, probably not capable of receiving MMS". I made them change their classification, and from then I could receive MMS normally.

This happened a couple of times, every time I changed my main phone. Call your provider, to be sure.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

If the settings are wrong, they are wrong independent of cellular data or WiFi is used.
Here it seems to be about inability to receive/send when connected to WLAN.
That looks like packets are routed wrong way.
--edit
Oh, and you do/should NOT need any data enabled (neither cellular nor data) but need at least GPRS (cell data) availability. As the traffic is sent/received via a completely different APN. Which activates (should activate) on its own.
Talking that I mean Symbian/Maemo/MeeGo times. How Sailfish handles I do not know. But I do hope this has not changed!?

@rob_kouw
but then you should be informed via a SMS that there is something to download on a web site? At least it was that way when I dealt with fMMS on N900.
Cannot remember to have used MMS on Sailfish...

Bu what I also remember is that you needed to have sent one MMS from that phone/SIM to activate the receiving.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Just send an MMS, and you can spare calling the provider.

Most provides require this as a proof that a specific device can handle MMS, before delivering MMSs to that device.

BTW, this a a classic, mentioned at TJC multiple times.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

There is a thread here called: "Sailfish MMS problems - T-Mobile USA".

I used "deprecated" suggested settings on page 2 for T-Mobile.
"Works every time, just not when you're on WiFi exclusively, or on a VPN.", as he says.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

If you give me working settings I will make PR to update file with MMS APN settings. After that "Reset to default" will be getting good APN values in future SFOS releases.

have you tried this settings? https://www.t-mobile.com/support/dev...d-apn-settings

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

T-Mobile, USA:

T-Mobile APN
epc.t-mobile.com
Dual
Auth: None

T-Mobile MMS
epc.t-mobile.com
IPv6
Auth: None
Proxy: Blank
Port: Blank
MMS message center: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

These settings works all the time.
The only time MMS wil not work is when you're on WiFi.
Thank you.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

yes we are with the same provider, and yes the default settings ARE wrong and must be manually set (in particular, we must use IPv6-only)

BUT that is not the problem, the problem is that MMS goes over wifi for everyone. some telecoms (yours) are okay with this, and some are not (ours)

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

atlochowski, there are NO SETTINGS that will work on wifi for us, as the problem is that T-Mobile requires us, on their end, to use cellular data when handling the actual downloading of the MMS.

on android, the downloading of the files goes over the cellular data and not your wifi, even when connected to wifi+celldata. on SFOS, it uses wifi to actually download the MMS.

EDIT: i actually dont know if SFOS uses wifi to download MMS or not, i just know that, on the same device with the same provider and the same APN+MMSC+IPv6,
on android: can ALWAYS send/rcv MMS while connected to wifi
on sfos: can NEVER send/rcv MMS while connected to wifi

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

EDIT: i did NOT fix it, connman firewall is NOT the problem, IM SO SORRY. i got REALLY excited.

my router lost power and restarted while i was testing and the wifi went off.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Yep. Reading this thread I was thinking: old, old problem. It's one of the reasons I can't aways use this phone as a primary. I assume it has something to do with U.S. networks and Jolla indifference since they don't sell their OS here. Same with the inability to participate in group texting. It's really short-sighted to ignore these basic features, even if Europeans seem not to care about them.
Anyway, it's a habit now for me to use the option in Utilities to restart the network subsystem whenever I turn off wifi because I know it broke the ability to do MMS.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

nevermind :'(

EDIT: er, i mean, nevermind my previous 'EUREKA!' this is still a problem, cannot send/rcv MMS while connected to wifi on a T-Mobile phone

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

p.s.: i will paypal 100$USD to anyone that fixes this reliably for me, even if its just some silly config change i never thought of

i know bounties are weird+suspicious, but ive spent hours on this and suffered for 3+ years, since first switching from meego to sfos, and ive actually gotten to happily pay a couple bounties on tmo

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

It may have been on N900 indeed, maybe N9 and J1 too. I did receive an SMS with a message.

BTW Sending an MMS was not enough back then. But all that is years ago...

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

(MMS still works fine for me on N900 and N9, on wifi or off)

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

I wonder if anyone has experienced this. The top menu on my Xperia X has been turning progressively more and more transparent, until it became so transparent that it was impossible to make out anything. A reboot fixed it, but now I wonder how long for.

Attached are two screenshots for a comparison. One from 5 days ago exhibiting the transparency and one after a reboot.

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Attachment 41106

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Quite curious behaviour indeed!
I have not came across that even though I tend to reboot as seldom as possible. Uptime is currently 16 days, reboot was due to updating from 3.3.0.14 to 3.3.0.16

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

I had that once or twice/thrice but did not spend a thought more on this than making a screenshot. Which I deleted in a clean-up mood later...

So for a SFOS user (me :)) nothing serious or even worth to mention :D

So, yes this happens (XA2).
afair a restart of lipstick cured

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

I think I saw a thread about this issue on TJC.

EDITED

https://together.jolla.com/question/...n-ui-ea-33016/

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

Just to spell it out, "it's Sailfish, what did you expect?" :D

I did not think of restarting just lipstick. I will try that next time.

Re: 3.3.0.x Rokua
 

I spotted it yesterday but got distracted and forgot to comment on it.

You can just about make out that both screenshots show a 40% brightness, but the sliders are at different positions. How does that work, I wonder :confused: