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Mara 2007-10-05 19:11

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
I agree with Texrat that the problem *should* be fixed now.

However, the official "release notes" with the bugfix is at least confusing and questionable:

QUOTE:---------------------
This new release (version number 4.2007.38-2) provides a software fix for a bug which may have appeared while copying large amount of data over-the-air or from external SDHC memory card to internal memory or vice versa. In some cases the downloaded data may have corrupted.

This new release fixes also a bug which drops in some cases voltage from memory card, though cards should manage this kind of situations without corruption.

---------------------

So, the last sentence should be the actual bug that was fixed. What bug the first sentence is referring? Was there another bug that I'm not aware??? :confused:

Texrat 2007-10-05 20:20

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
I blame Finnglish. :p

Saturn 2007-10-05 22:57

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 79695)
I have updated kernel flasher so it won't print that scary message about size mismatch. Now the size is properly checked (kernel has its size stored in its header). Smaller files (=incomplete downloads) are detected and flashing is aborted. Larger and already padded kernels (those extracted from full firmware images) are properly reported. I hope there is no additional bug introduced.

Hi Fanoush,

Thanks a lot for the effort to give us the flasher.

Really appreciated.

Chris

Saturn 2007-10-05 23:02

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wahlau (Post 79480)
(hope i did not double post..)

thanks a lot for the kernel and scripts. i tried it and so far my n800 is still kickin. I wrote the steps down here, so perhaps others can refer to it when needed.

one thing i noticed after the update is the slight improvement of response time when i start a software or so. is it just a feeling, or generally something has been improved?

thanks agin.

Hi,

After the update is done shouldn't you delete the two files downloaded to save space? I mean is it safe?

Just curious..

Saturn 2007-10-06 02:00

Re: Fix for the memory corruption bug!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 79261)
Here you go, just the kernel image for 4.2007.38-2....

http://nmacleod.com/nokia/n800/zImage-4.2007.38-2 (1,317,632 bytes)

Hi Mlhouse,

Thanks a lot for hosting the image.

Maybe this is a little OT but do you think your point back to: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...8223#post58223
is still needed with this kernel? I notice that after flashing only the kernel, my setting @ 1000 remains. Should we reset that back to default?

Thanks again,
Chris

Traecer 2007-10-06 04:52

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
OK, so this firmware supposedly fixes the SDHC bug(s). But has anyone actually tried using a SDHC card yet? I don't want to install the new firmware until someone else has tried it out with a large capacity card. Any guinea pigs^H^H^H^H^H^H hands-on end user reports?

Moonshine 2007-10-06 06:12

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Well, I'm posting this from an n800 with two Kingston 8gb sdhc card installed. (Root partition is on the internal card also.) No problems here. I built an identical system for my business partner also, and she's doing fine as well. However, I think the Kingston cards may be safer then others relation to the bug fix.

Milhouse 2007-10-06 13:54

Re: Fix for the memory corruption bug!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 80059)
Maybe this is a little OT but do you think your point back to: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...8223#post58223
is still needed with this kernel? I notice that after flashing only the kernel, my setting @ 1000 remains. Should we reset that back to default?

Thanks again,
Chris

Only the MMC/SD corruption issue is addressed in this new firmware (specifically with kernel changes and nothing to do with WiFi) so yes, I'd say the WiFi timeout tweak is still neeed when using the new firmware/kernel.

Your setting @1000 remained after you flashed only the kernel because the gconf settings are stored in your rootfs. If you had reflashed the entire firmware on to your device, your settings would have reverted to the default (200?) and you would no doubt experience WiFi connection problems again.

Texrat 2007-10-06 14:31

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Milhouse your contributions are highly appreciated.

TA-t3 2007-10-09 15:25

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
From following the reports in bugzilla it appears that the problem was reproduced and understood at Nokia the moment a certain Michael (IIRC) posted a report where it became clear that the card corruption was happening when the N800 light dimmed a certain time window after data was written to the card. Only then it became clear what was happening. It wasn't just a question of 'write a large file to the card, damm*t!' or some such.

You needed to have the conditions set up like described above to reproduce the problem. _None_ of the steps-to-reproduce posted earlier had included the user's light timeout settings, not to mention actually describing the connection to the light dimming. In light of this (no pun intended) I find the whining and yelling from some posters quite uncalled for. Instead, virtual beers and cheers to the bugzilla poster which actually came up with the _true_ way to reproduce the problem!

Texrat 2007-10-09 16:05

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Now I'm wondering if my extended timeout settings are what prevented me from experiencing the card problems... probably so.

brendan 2007-10-09 22:40

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
so my question is, am i (or any of the rest of us) going to get reimbursed for the card(s) burned by n800s? seems to me something should be done about that.

Texrat 2007-10-09 22:51

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan (Post 80940)
so my question is, am i (or any of the rest of us) going to get reimbursed for the card(s) burned by n800s? seems to me something should be done about that.

As explained before, the avenue for reimbursement lies with the card vendors.

Mara 2007-10-10 00:14

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 80846)
Now I'm wondering if my extended timeout settings are what prevented me from experiencing the card problems... probably so.

I recall someone testing this theory out and it did indeed help... maybe a quick seach on forum can find out... :rolleyes:

geneven 2007-10-10 03:19

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
"As explained before, the avenue for reimbursement lies with the card vendors."

This is too terse. You figure out why; I'll adopt your policy and just provide my conclusion with no hint of my reasoning.

Texrat 2007-10-10 04:04

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 80982)
"As explained before, the avenue for reimbursement lies with the card vendors."

This is too terse. You figure out why; I'll adopt your policy and just provide my conclusion with no hint of my reasoning.

It's not *my* policy. As for being too terse, that's simply because I see no need to completely reiterate what's been mentioned numerous times already, including the reasoning. No offense intended.

blacksmith_tb 2007-10-16 04:51

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
I'm still getting corruption and crashing after applying the update. Which is extremely annoying, as I'm about to go on vacation, and being able to have a bunch of mp3s and some video was the whole reason I bought the N800. Has anyone else had this problem?

Rebski 2007-10-16 11:14

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
Geneven
Quote:

"As explained before, the avenue for reimbursement lies with the card vendors."

This is too terse.
see post #109
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204

Does this help?

blacksmith_tb 2007-10-16 18:03

Re: New Nokia N800 Firmware to fix SDHC Bug Released
 
It sheds some light, but since the last post was on 10/12, I'd think that most people aren't still having problems. My symptoms are a little different after the firmware upgrade - before, individual files and some dirs became corrupt after Canola rescanned my library, but this happened quietly, and I only noticed it as albums dropped out of the list. After the flash, (and with a new 8Gb Transcend card), Canola's scanning again causes corruption, but with more serious results - the N800 locks up on the NOKIA boot screen, and after a minute or so, powers down. I just reformatted and checked the card under OS X, and it seems fine, so I'm trying again, this time with the card's lock switch on (though I'm not sure that'll save me). -T.


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