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Greyghost 2007-11-15 03:41

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 94572)
I am a linux noob and i assure you tat it is a lot easier than it looks.

Thanks Sachin, for the timely reassurance. Total noob that I am, I was also able to do this.

Thanks also Nokia and the Maemo team. Sorry I couldn't wait:rolleyes: I know there are still things to be worked out, but I'm delighted to see how it is going and really look forward to rebuilding my N800. This new OS is quite cool!

EIPI 2007-11-15 03:51

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johsua (Post 94982)
I am able to pair my i-blue gps receiver. I don't have good sat. reception in my ground floor cement apartment, but presumably it'll work. After 20 minutes with 2008 - I'm sold... Maybe I should check out the browser...

edit: just tried it with gmail. I can actually use the thumb board to write an email w/out it totally screwing up! This is great...

I just tried to pair my iBlue unit as well. It gave me 'Pairing Failed. Authentication Failed." Any ideas on what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.

linuxrebel 2007-11-15 05:02

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Yowza.. finally got in, and can post! (long story involves waving chicken bones at midnight under a full moon etc.) OK the question was asked about recommending a small live Linux that can be used to load an image to a n800. http://damnsmalllinux.org/ is what I would recommend. Less than 50MB download and it's got all you need to read NTSF file systems etc. However if you need to write, you would be best to have a small dos partition (fat32 type) as ntfs write is not easily supported.

bachviet 2007-11-15 05:13

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
I'm a noob with Linux and the N800. I tried to flash the firmware in Ubuntu 7.10 and it didn't work. This is the error I got at the end:

USB device found found at bus 001, device address 003
Found device RX-34, hardware revision 1301
NOLO version 1.1.6
Version of 'sw-release': <no version>
Sending and flashing rootfs image (128256 kB)...
100% (128256 of 128256 kB, avg. 7057 kB/s)
Finishing flashing... Sending request 0x52 failed!
Unable to get error strings: Connection timed out

Anybody has any idea of how to fix this? Thanks.

linuxrebel 2007-11-15 05:24

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Jupex,

here is where two worlds colide. Linux users are used to the Beta cycles and the 'ooooops' syndrome of bleeding edge beta's I've had to face the problem of fixing a beta that won't boot until I put in the patch that I need to boot to put in. (In the old days this was solved by dual linux installs or slackware CD 2, now it's a live CD)

In the end I understand your point, and I understand how Linux people feel. We live by the credo release early, release often. IMHO if I load beta software and it bricks.. oops. If I load final and it causes me to lose several SD cards, I'm a tad peeved to say the least.

So the quick grab for those who are Linux heads, well, riding the edge is part of the fun.

johsua 2007-11-15 07:26

The iblue pair code is 0000.

anidel 2007-11-15 08:05

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhoff80 (Post 95047)
I already said. Bluetooth headsets will connect, and the tablet thinks its routing all audio to it, so the internal speaker will be muted. However, you won't hear any audio on your headset yet. This is both with Gizmo Project and the 'internet call' program which now supports SIP.

I confirm this.

xxM5xx 2007-11-15 08:14

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 95113)
I confirm this.

Thanks. I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

mikemorrison 2007-11-15 10:31

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 94985)
Well it fixed the broken video chat, not much else seems to be installable, Evince, Quiver, FBReader, OMWeather, UKMP, Python to name a few.

quiver is installable:

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/quiver/

traveller604 2007-11-15 11:14

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
As is FBReader..

http://www.fbreader.org/maemo/maemo4.php

EIPI 2007-11-15 12:50

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johsua (Post 95101)
The iblue pair code is 0000.

Thank you. Works now!

Can anyone confirm if A2DP is supported on OS2008, now that people have flashed their N800s. I am awaiting my BT Headset, so I cannot confirm this until it arrives (tomorrow, according to UPS). Many thanks.

Jupex 2007-11-15 13:10

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Well I red somewhere that there is a2db support, sort of, but it is disabled atm.

technut 2007-11-16 03:29

Turning off R&D mode
 
Added to post #2 in this thread:

-- For step 6 in the instructions, the first flash command after you connect the N800,
sudo ./flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode is NOT needed.
It puts the N800 into "R&D mode", but that is not necessary for this procedure. Just skip that one.

If you have already issued that flash command, then when you complete the steps your N800 will still be in "R&D mode". It is not strictly necessary, but if you want to turn off R&D mode you'll need to use the flasher program one more time with the command:
sudo ./flasher-3.0 --disable-rd-mode

norsk 2007-11-16 21:02

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Does anybody else have the problem of having a reboot loop after they upgrade the firmware to 2008 on n800?

I flashed according to instructions and the new firmware, both in rd-mode and without, just boots the green progress bar to completion and then reboots.
I reverted back to os 2007 several times.

The upgrade proceeds 100 % successful, all the promts are successful.
Upload 100% complete, no interruptions.

The only way I could boot into os 2008 was by passing the following arguments- flasher-3.0 --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset -f
After that the os 2008 boots into the set-up screen, but my touch-screen and buttons are not responsive, so I cannot bypass the set-up screen.


I flashed with the latest flasher from a debian unstable distro with the 2.6.15 kernel. Usb is working fine, usb transfer is fine, thinkpad 600.

technut 2007-11-16 22:53

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
No problem here... maybe your firmware image is corrupted? I'd try downloading and unpacking it again, see if that helps.

norsk 2007-11-16 23:46

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Thanks for the suggestion

I was under the impression that there is a .bin integrity check by the installer before flashing... I will try it again tomorrow, 4 hours of "game time " is enough for one day.

YoDude 2007-11-16 23:50

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by norsk (Post 96071)
Thanks for the suggestion

I was under the impression that there is a .bin integrity check by the installer before flashing... I will try it again tomorrow, 4 hours of "game time " is enough for one day.

Did you restore any previous bits from the last OS ?

jdr93 2007-11-17 00:56

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
worked on installing the 2008 os for about three hours last night, then another 3 hours this morning, when i was a little more awake. used knoppix 5.1 run from a cd. copied the two files to the tmp directory (ram disk) and chmod(ed) flasher-3.0 then expanded RX-44. (did not see that mro was actually mr0(zero) for far too long!). the first three sudo commands went well, except that knoppix kept reporting there was no suitable usb connection. i figured out that after the n800 was in rd mode turning off the n800 (by removing and reinserting the battery) then pressing the start button (only) would allow knoppix to see the usb and perform the action called for in the sudo command. i had to start the command, turn off the tablet, reinsert the battery, then press the start button. which was ok, stupid, but ok. except that the final command (rootfs.jffs2) kept failing due to a time out problem. knoppix would report it had loaded the new os but also report an ??52 failure of some sort, due to running out of time. it sort of seemed to be loading the firmware, printing out what percentage it had reached and how fast the transfer was proceeding, then 'zip' it would report it had finished. i finally managed to figure out that turning off the tablet (removing battery) putting it back in, then running the sudo command and immediately pressing the start button would allow enough time for the os to be copied over. i don't know if the usb glitch is a problem the tablet has or knoppix has, but it definitely contributed to a frustrating series of experiences.

so that's done, i like the new os much more than the previous n800 version and am mucho grateful to our friends at nokia (huzzah!), but i have a couple questions. has anyone gotten new 4.0 gizmo to load? does the navicore software for the n800 load? and gpe calendar?

if yes, what was your process? thank you.

john

Rebski 2007-11-17 01:28

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
It sounds as if either you were very unlucky or some of us were very lucky, that was quite an effort but glad you got there in the end.

I can respond to your questions:

Gizmo: While I believe that it should work and that it is intended to, I am unable to install it.

Navicore: AFAIK This will not be supported in OS2008, instead we have to use the Wayfinder apps. There is a long detailed thread on this topic in existence.

GPE Calender: This is not yet compatible.

There is another detailed thread on apps that do work on OS2008 which is worth checking out.

technut 2007-11-17 01:51

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdr93 (Post 96096)
knoppix kept reporting there was no suitable usb connection. i figured out that after the n800 was in rd mode turning off the n800 (by removing and reinserting the battery) then pressing the start button (only) would allow knoppix to see the usb and perform the action called for in the sudo command.

That sounds like a Knoppix/USB issue. I used Ubuntu and didn't run into any trouble at all. Glad you finally got it installed though!

YoDude 2007-11-17 02:33

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Ubuntu for me on a USB 1 first reported no USB device found, then the next line it found it and ran. (This was after each flasher command.)

Being new to Ubuntu I assumed it was just polling until it found the right config, then executed.

Perhaps some of these problems are with USB 1.x.

Other than that hic-up, everything went well.

virx14 2007-11-17 03:39

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdr93 (Post 96096)
.............
i have a couple questions. has anyone gotten new 4.0 gizmo to load? does the navicore software for the n800 load? and gpe calendar?

if yes, what was your process? thank you.

john

Going to communications -> gizmo will install gizmo. However I did not find any video capabilities in gizmo even though launcher shortcut says "Gizmo (Video & IM).

As someone already answered, Navicore is called Wayfinder now, it works fine as far as free functionality is concerned, routing is not yet available.

GPE Calendar is not ported yet AFAIK.

technut 2007-11-17 03:42

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by virx14 (Post 96145)
Going to communications -> gizmo will install gizmo.

Doesn't seem to be working at the moment. It prompted to add a new repository, that worked fine, then it downloaded the app (about 5 MB) and that completed. But the install aborts about 1/3 of the way through. Hopefully they update the package soon to get it working again.

vabgeo 2007-11-17 04:10

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by virx14 (Post 96145)
Going to communications -> gizmo will install gizmo. However I did not find any video capabilities in gizmo even though launcher shortcut says "Gizmo (Video & IM).

I have installed gizmo, when os2008 was leaked, I can connect to gizmo for windows v4beta with video and do video chat.

You just dialog a contact in gizmo for n800, and the video comes up.
http://vabgeo.googlepages.com/n800_gizmo_vid.jpg

vabgeo 2007-11-17 04:13

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by technut (Post 96146)
Doesn't seem to be working at the moment. It prompted to add a new repository, that worked fine, then it downloaded the app (about 5 MB) and that completed. But the install aborts about 1/3 of the way through. Hopefully they update the package soon to get it working again.

I remember I had a long delay too, I though it had hung and was going to kill it, when it resumed and completed installation. Maybe their server is slow?

jdr93 2007-11-17 04:29

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vabgeo (Post 96154)
I remember I had a long delay too, I though it had hung and was going to kill it, when it resumed and completed installation. Maybe their server is slow?

so you actually have gizmo (voice, video and i.m working for you on the 800 with the 2008 os? i'm going to try it right now. nope, download 4.23mb, then installs to about the 25% point and fails. application manager claims it's 'installable' though. glad i kept my n770 now. i like the new os, but i want to have maemo mapper and gizmo with us when we go to europe in a week. though i have some small issues with maemo mapper i do feel in many ways it's a superior ap over navicore

john

vabgeo 2007-11-17 04:45

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdr93 (Post 96160)
so you actually have gizmo (voice, video and i.m working for you on the 800 with the 2008 os? i'm going to try it right now. nope, download 4.23mb, then installs to about the 25% point and fails. application manager claims it's 'installable' though. glad i kept my n770 now. i like the new os, but i want to have maemo mapper and gizmo with us when we go to europe in week. though i have some small issues with maemo mapper i do feel in many ways it's a superior ap over navicore

john

I have OS2008 on N800, the gizmo version in N800 is v4.0.0 (94) and windows version is v4.0.(v319) with video running. i also had gizmo video in os2007 but it used to crash a lot that I rarely used it.

geneven 2007-11-17 04:50

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
I have a similar problem witn Puppy Linux, which is not related to Ubuntu. I have been unable to boot staying connected to usb after at least 30 tries.Each time I see the usb icon and it disappears.

I have successfully flashed my N800 about 20 times from Windows XP.

technut 2007-11-17 05:07

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vabgeo (Post 96152)
I can connect to gizmo for windows v4beta with video and do video chat.

That's good news! I know a few people have had brief success but if this is reliable I think its a breakthrough.

I'll try to install Gizmo again a bit later.

p.s. Realized after I posted that the picture shows what I asked about it working both ways.

Moonshine 2007-11-17 05:17

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdr93 (Post 96160)
so you actually have gizmo (voice, video and i.m working for you on the 800 with the 2008 os? i'm going to try it right now. nope, download 4.23mb, then installs to about the 25% point and fails. application manager claims it's 'installable' though.

FWIW I'm seeing the same thing . Logs show:

Code:

Installing gizmo-project 4.0.0.94
(Reading database ... 15858 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gizmo-project (from .../gizmo-project_4.0.0.94_armel.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /media/mmc2/.apt-archive-cache/gizmo-project_4.0.0.94_armel.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/gizmo-project.png', which is also in package gizmo-installer
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /media/mmc2/.apt-archive-cache/gizmo-project_4.0.0.94_armel.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


vabgeo 2007-11-17 05:19

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by technut (Post 96170)
That's good news! And it works both ways? You can see the PC video on your Nokia?

I'll try to install Gizmo again a bit later.

Yes as the pic in my previous message shows. I didnt have screenshot of os2008 installed , so just did a print screen of my win-gizmo showing a lin-gizmo showing a....
I wont comment much on the vga cam of the n800

vabgeo 2007-11-17 05:21

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonshine (Post 96173)
FWIW I'm seeing the same thing . Logs show:

Code:

Installing gizmo-project 4.0.0.94

 trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/gizmo-project.png', which is also in package gizmo-installer


delete the png in a terminal as root, it might install...
I had a similar problem with another deb I was creating.

jdr93 2007-11-17 05:22

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 96164)
I have a similar problem witn Puppy Linux, which is not related to Ubuntu. I have been unable to boot staying connected to usb after at least 30 tries.Each time I see the usb icon and it disappears.

I have successfully flashed my N800 about 20 times from Windows XP.

try downloading another one of the myriad of cd live linux variations. odd the usb icon goes away. you checked the usb cord?

Moonshine 2007-11-17 05:41

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vabgeo (Post 96177)
delete the png in a terminal as root, it might install...
I had a similar problem with another deb I was creating.

I tried, but it didn't help. However uninstalling the "gizmo-installer" package with:

Code:

dpkg -r gizmo-installer
Did let me install Gizmo from their repo via App Manager :D

evanjfraser 2007-11-17 08:06

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
GPE does work on OS2008, but you need to use the experimental dist at:

http://www.cobb.uk.net/apt/

(add "deb http://www.cobb.uk.net/apt/ chinook experimental" to your
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list )

geneven 2007-11-17 08:42

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
'try downloading another one of the myriad of cd live linux variations. odd the usb icon goes away. you checked the usb cord'

When trying it 30 times, I did check the usb cord, yes.I also tried a different usb port. I am out of town and only have one computer to try it on.I will try another usb cord when I find one.

I have seen similar behavior before, just not as bad. It is NOT odd that the usb icon goes away. This is how this process fails, when it fails.I have described this problem before, on this site. (see 'flashing is too hard') I am not the only one who has described this problem.

As a devotee of Distrowatch, I am well aware that there are other cd live variations. I will try some. Hopefully one will work, though Ubuntu is a fairly major distro.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Rebski 2007-11-17 13:08

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

GPE does work on OS2008, but you need to use the experimental dist at:

http://www.cobb.uk.net/apt/

(add "deb http://www.cobb.uk.net/apt/ chinook experimental" to your
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list )
Thanks for posting this evanjfraser, that is brilliant news - just what I have been looking for.

GPE Contacts, ToDo and File Manager all install and work.

The problem with Calendar is that it requires the missing package libsoup2.2-8. From what I can see this should be in the Cobb repository.
It is listed in http://www.cobb.uk.net/apt/dists/chi...armel/Packages

but the file is not present.

Would you have any idea how to obtain it?

bachviet 2007-11-17 14:53

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
On Wednesday & Thursday, I used CNet instruction to install but it wasn't successful (timeout error after last command). However yesterday, I downloaded the firmware & flasher-3.0 again and gave it another try. I flashed my N800 without enable R&D mode and it was a success. I don't know if the firmware or the R&D mode caused the problem.

evanjfraser 2007-11-17 15:25

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 96262)

The problem with Calendar is that it requires the missing package libsoup2.2-8.

You need the Maemo Hackers repository I believe:

http://gronmayer.com/n800/repos/

jmancine 2007-11-17 16:23

Re: How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
 
norsk, I had the same problem with the boot loop. This post is also pertinent to those trying to install from Ubuntu live cd.

Turns out that the live CD method does not work sometimes. For unknown reasons, the virtual filesystem that it creates has no free space for the os2008 files to expand into during installation. This results in only a partial flash.

Check your logs for write errors or disk space errors.

My solution was to install Ubuntu to a partition. The process was then seamless. And I'm a big fan of Ubuntu now, too. ;)


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