Re: Carman Update Coming August
 

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It is not visible in Application Manager because the category is not of the form user/...
But there are other means ...

Re: Carman Update Coming August
 

Ah, that triggered something in the mush that passes for my brain lately: I was in Red pill mode when Carman appeared...

Re: Carman Update Coming August
 

That helped! Thanks.

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Please don't use Red Pill. Install the appropriate packages with apt-get or wait for the real release.

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Thanks for the warning, but I'm a big boy. I'm perfectly aware of the risks associated with Red Pill, and accept them.

I also love to compile my own kernels, and enjoy reflashing Linksys and Asus routers with OpenWRT, DD-WRT, etc.

However, I do understand (I think) at least the intent of your warning was to minimize "newbs" exposure to the hard edge of Application Manager...

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Using App. Mgr. is like soldering with boxing gloves and a soldering iron.
Using App. Mgr. in red-pill is like soldering with boxing gloves and a light saber.

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That's funny!

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someone need to get real apt gui going on maemo then as having to use apt-get on this small a screen becomes bothersome in the long run, even with a proper keyboard...

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Good for you, but Red Pill is still a bad plan in Application manager. If you really know what you're doing, then you should just use apt-get.

In a thread filled with eager users wanting to get ahold of a cool new application, dropping Red Pill as the secret answer to get that application is a bad plan. :)

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I think the reason why there's no Synaptic or Adept in Maemo is because of how things are all shoved into user/...?

But, I'm probably wrong.

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Have you tried either on 800x480? A full-featured package manager simply doesn't work on such a small screen.

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No, but that doesn't seem to stop others from trying to port Linux Desktop Apps to the NIT...

For the record, I agree totally with what I think is your sentiment. I've tried the Keblet installation and, while I think it's really freakin' awesome that this is possible, it never stays on my tablet for any length of time, for the same reason you're implying. To me, KDE or Gnome or whatever just looks terrible on my tablet, and it's almost impossible for me to get used to using...and I'm a long-time (since KDE 1.x) user of KDE.

I'm happy enough with Hildon on my tablet because it just works better. When I click on a text-entry box, I like the fact that I didn't have to remember to bring up the keyboard before doing so. I already have to wear medium power reading glasses just to use the thing. If Nokia improves Hildon, or replaces it with something better, that's just great.

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Yes I have, in Deblet, and they work fine...

There are a lot of things in Synaptic that I like, such as installing/uninstalling multiple apps at the same time, etc..

Still can't install, either in Red Pill or apt-get. Looks like dependency problems.

Edit: Nevermind, I found the problem. I simply did apt-get autoremove, and then installed the packages...

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Same resolution as the N8x0? You sleep too much or being too biased.

Back to topic: where is the technical GTK interface? Yes, these themed graphics looks cool, but the GTK interface was more informative. You offer a 3 second update. Is it possible to lower this value to 4values/second? If not, what part is the reason (GPS, Bluetooth, Elmscan)??

Do you plan to release Carman for usual Linux distributions (to let it run on a laptop) or a better question: does Carman works with usual (py)bluez? Thank you.

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Back on topic : Carman is very nice and it can even show GoogleMaps with a little plugin (although there are still a few bugs with the user plugins ...)
Nice works guys !

Fred

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How so? Nokia N800: 800x480. Asus Eee PC 701SD, 4G, 4G Surf, 2G Surf: 800x480. There are other, higher resolution Eee PCs now, of course, but the initial--and most common--models use the same screen resolution as the N8x0s.

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Maybe most common in your biased world because you can do everything with your N8x0 - the one and only gadget. When other needs a C2D you'll take out your N8x0 and do the same. Aaaaargh!!!
Eee is one example for millions laptops out there. Maybe an Eee comes to my mind as an example because I own one.

I only want to ask if Carman developers brings Carman to the desktop like Canola and whether there is a GTK screen with much more technical numbers at one screen? Thank you for an answer! :)

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Perhaps it's not what you meant, but what you wrote was a request for a higher resolution Carman for use on an Eee PC. Benson and I responded specifically to that. I neither wrote nor implied that computers with larger resolutions are rare or unimportant, and I don't think Benson did either.

You're raging at shadows.

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What I exactly wrote:
Do you plan such thing with Carman too? So I can use it with my Eee PC.

What does that mean:
I asked about an x86 version like Canola and take as an example what I own. Nothing aggressive, just a friendly question.
It's looks like you have a personal problem with other gadgets if someone spells it. Childish!

@Carman developers:
Do you plan a Carman version for x86 like Canola? Yes I know it's Python. I mean a 'ready to run' version?
Is it possible to use the GTK interface on Carman 0.7? Thanks a lot for answer!

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You've grossly misinterpreted what Benson and I wrote, but the issue isn't important enough to spend more time explaining.

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Where can you find those plugins?

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repository now showing update

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Yup, its now working without redpill. Very Nice now that everything works.

Question: Can you change from openstreet to Google? Also, does it work offline (aka, where is the cache, and how big is it)

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I have completely removed 0.6 and any previous traces of 0.7, and reinstalled. Carman cleanup was showing all packages as uninstalled.

Reinstalled, and everything installs cleanly, but I am getting a "no plugins" message. GPS, WLAN and ODB showing as connected. Does the same in simulator mode as well. Am I missing something really obvious?

Any Ideas? Thanks

Gaz

Re: Carman Update Coming August
 

Yes, you can but you'll have to write the Google Maps plugin yourself ... It would be interesting that the people behind Carman state what they think about the Google Maps Plugin possibility ... And may be that they publish the OSM Plugin for example ...

It works offline and the tiles are stored on a repository specified by the plugin inside the Carman directory (for which you specify the place in Carman settings)

Fred

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Same behavior here. In addition, Carman now connects to my Car-Pal ODB and immediately disconnects.

I have entered bug reports on these two issues.

Re: Carman Update Coming August
 

You should try to run Carman in Xterm with those parameters :
carman-gtk --log-level=debug

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That does not work for me at least. However with a little bit of lateral thinking an alternative is..

carmand vvvv

however it does not show any information regarding plugins unfortunately - all the messages I get at least are sucesses

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Still nothing on which BT ODB-II devices it supports?:confused:

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Installation went well and all options seem to be functioning fine. Only issue I am having is that I get a great deal of disconnects.

Everything will be fine, collecting data, showing speeds and RPM and engine load, then bam 5 seconds later, disconnect. Reconnects fine then bam. Disconnect. Seems to happen at a random interval. Can be 5 seconds can be 4 minutes.

If this gets fixed, well, I'm simply very happy with this software. Thank you lots for putting it together. Im using a bluetooth elmscan btw.

Requests: Engine Load plot, fuel consumtion (not sure if this is possible with the data from the ODB-II?) instant and plot.

Thanks!

Re: Carman Update Coming August
 

Hi folks,

as you can see the 0.7-beta1 is in extras-devel. To be able to record trip data we had to implement the communication in a daemon. This code was rewritten in C so probably will have some new bugs.

The OBD devices supported list has not changed. We are planning to add some new devices in some future version, but first we will fix the issues in communication.

If you are facing any communication issue, please report a bug in our bug system at garage with the log. We are aware of some bluetooth problems and we are working with the Nokia guys to fix them. To generate a log file, you have to run the carmand with the following command (first kill the already running process, if any):
$ carmand --log-level=debug >log.txt

Also, be sure to remove the old version of carman using carman-clean application.

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How can I tell if my car has obdii? not sure about that kind of standars in south america. I have a 97' Daihatsu Feroza

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An especially useful plugin would be one that stores its map data in databases (like Maemo Mapper), perhaps even using the same database file to share already downloaded data.

Regards,
Hakan