Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

So I just copied the old .canola/covers directory from an old backup to the new beta 10 .canola directory.... I <mostly> have cover arts again :) Just a tip for those of you that can't wait for cover art support to be added.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I can't seem to find beta10...which repository is it on?

Also is the "final" release of beta10 expected out this week and would it be better for me to wait.

I don't mind beta-testing, just wondering if you already have enough cooks in this kitchen arguing about the stew...so to speak...

HB

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I believe it's in extras-deval.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

my canola is totzlly borked. i tried canola cleanup and after that reinstalled canola 10 and all plugins. still no plugins show up.
then i uninstall everything and try to run canola cleanup again. but it says hardware not supported.
i got fed up and installed the old canola 9 but i could not install plugins because they were for canola 10

someone please help
thans

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I've got the same "hardware not supported" message on Canola Cleanup. I'm not sure where to take it from here.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Hi Ogar,

which tablet are you using (N800 or N810), which version (diablo or chinook) and which canola-cleanup version?

Br.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Sachin : if you install Canola9, make sure you remove extras-devel :/
If you don't remove it will try the beta10.

It's not on Extras because of that, because it's not ready for prime time : /

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Please again, check the version of Canola cleanup application. The version which works is 0.1.8-maemo3, and it is available in the extras-devel repository.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Etrunko (I think, you are the packager for Canola), I would like to give a suggestion about the /debian/postinst script.
It runs 'maemo-select-menu-location' in every update and asks the user to decide the menu where put Canola, this can be annoying for the user if she already has her menus modified and doesn't want to change them.

With this code, it only runs 'maemo-select-menu-location' when the installation is the first time:

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Not meaning to be pushy but when do you think it will be ready for "prime time"?

Thanks!

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

hello etrunko,

i double checked and reinstalled. i can confirm that the hardware not supported is from the version u mentioned above. although the first time i ran it... it did run, after which i installed 10 and all plugins but none of the plugins showed up. so i uminstalled everything and ran cleanup... and i got the version not supported message.

thanks

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Status report :

Upgraded from beta9 on N800 (latest Diablo SSU) and N810 (Chinook).

Upgrade went well in both cases, nothing special afterwards on N800.

At first the N810 had trouble finding the media it knew before (photos, mostly) although it had the correct folders in its configuration. With minimal fiddling (unchecking/rechecking things in the config menu and validating) and a couple of restarts things were back to normal again, without needing cleanup or deleting .canola etc. YouTube and LastFM plugins were OK on first try.

I don't know if or how it's not "ready for prime time", but all in all it was a painless and effortless upgrade here. Cheers to the team, tudo bom ! :-)

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Hi fpp :

Actually it's not ready in more complex use cases. The multi-task (switching from music to youtube then to podcast) will bring you several bad surprises on it's current form

We are running to kill those bugs

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Thanks Marcelo, that means I'll be OK -- I'm a simple guy with simple use cases :-)

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

One strange effect, I noticed with the previous version and still have it here. After playing many songs ("Play random"), Canola just stops playing at the start of the next song. Switching back and forth does not help - it does not play other songs either. Sometimes it even hangs at that point. Quitting Canola and starting again does help.

The music is on 8G microsd (using minisd adapter).

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

handful,

bugs are annoying aren't they...
hat off to you guys round the other side of the world though :)

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

had this bug too in beta9, but didn't experience it in beta10 so far. but maybe i just haven't played musik long enough for it to show up (was also not very often in beta9)

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Bugs are part of the fun, and almost the whole pain of software :) but what can we do right? :) only fix those miserable little beasts :)

Thanks for the compliments, we are really needing encouraging words to release this version!

:)

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

seiichiro0185: yes it is intermittent. Do not know how to reproduce it reliably. But it happens every now and then...

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Canola and Carman in my Jaguar XKR 2001 in place of my satnav and CD player...
I would like to install my n810 where the satnav screen is in my xkr and have it running carman, canola and USB host to my 320GB WD Passport drive.

First, I need to find out the wiring of my XKR, then I need to know whether Canola2 can handle 50,000 tracks?

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Chris : I have added to the Canola backlog for a while now the "support" for usb and other mounted drives in the settings tab, but you will be able to do it even without it.

About the 50.000 to be honest the maximum we have tested was 16.000 songs :)

It's more about Sqlite than Canola, as most list uses lazy loading :) but getting covers will probably take a lot of time :))) tip : uncheck all options but amazon before doing it

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Svu : please if you manage to reproduce it, please let us know ;/
we are trying to make most fixes to this core things... so this would be a killer if we could find and kill it :)

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

There are new versions of Canola and the Tuning Plugin in the extras-devel repository. We hope those are the final packages for beta10.

canola2: 2.0.0~beta10-maemo3
tuning-plugin: 0.2.1-maemo1

Best Regards, Etrunko.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

A quick question - Canola is great. There has long been promised an FM radio plugins as well as support for video podcasts - are there any signs of these at all, or have they quietly died a death. If so, it would be a shame as with them Canola would take care of all my media needs, and I really really like the interface.

Thanks for all the hard work go to all the team.

Gaz

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I just installed Canola after uninstalling beta9 to upgrade to the last Diablo SSU (not enough space on the internal memory), and found that I can only open music, and photos, there is no video icon, no youtube, last.fm, internet radio, podcast, etc. and the settings screen it's very simple, missing some options, it's like Canola can't load any plugins beside music and photos.
Does anyone has the same problem? I already tried uninstalling Canola, running Canola cleanup, and reinstalling Canola.
How can I get all the plugins working again?
Thanks

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Ihave the same exact problem, I only have audio and photo menus, no matter what plugins I have installed.

is there a way to fix this?
thx in advance.

and btw I'm running on diablo, N800, and have the latest version
2.0.0 beta10 maemo3

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Try running from xterm as root...does that enable all the plugins?

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I'm not sure if this is the right way to do it from xterm, but it seems that it starts loading canola, I get the glimpse of a green canola screen that immediately disappears and gives me this error:

~ $ sudo gainroot
Root shell enabled


BusyBox v1.6.1 (2008-05-22 10:32:35 EEST) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/home/user # canola
process 4484: D-Bus library appears to be incorrectly set up; failed to read machine uuid: Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such file or directory
See the manual page for dbus-uuidgen to correct this issue.
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
Aborted
/home/user #

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I managed to reproduce with canola -vv. In xterm I see endless sequence of

1224176543.6121 DBG_E controller:337:get_position() Coul d not get position: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.atabake. lib.errors.GetPositionError: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/service.py ", line 696, in _message_cb
retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
File "atabake/lib/player_session.py", line 321, in get _position
File "atabake/players/oms_backend.py", line 145, in ge t_position
GetPositionError: failed while getting position: () @ F ile "atabake/players/oms_backend.py", line 135, in get_p osition

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Tried running Canola from the root shell:
/home/user # canola

Takes some time to load Canola, once it finishes loading, I just get a blank screen with the background, the clock on the top left of the screen and "Canola" on the top center of the screen, no icons and no back arrow in the bottom left, nothing else.

After closing Canola from the Home menu I get this from the shell:
/home/user # canola
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi", line 29, in ecore.c_ecore.timer_cb
File "ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi", line 91, in ecore.c_ecore.Timer._exec
File "core/main/controller.py", line 236, in _lazy_init
File "core/main/controller.py", line 115, in __init__
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 217, in __new__
mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 106, in __new__
bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125, in __new__
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi", line 29, in ecore.c_ecore.timer_cb
File "ecore.c_ecore_timer.pxi", line 91, in ecore.c_ecore.Timer._exec
File "/usr/bin/canola", line 296, in post_show_setup
acquire_dbus_service_name()
File "/usr/bin/canola", line 46, in acquire_dbus_service_name
bus = dbus.SessionBus()
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 217, in __new__
mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py", line 106, in __new__
bus = BusConnection.__new__(subclass, bus_type, mainloop=mainloop)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 125, in __new__
bus = cls._new_for_bus(address_or_type, mainloop=mainloop)
DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session
/home/user #

Opening Canola again from the menu, I still have no plugins... only Audio and Photos.

Edit: I'll try to update to the extras-devel version.
Edit 2: I discovered that I'm already running latest version.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

had the same problem.

uninstalled all plugins ran canola tuning and reinstalled everything. i did not succeed the first time but tried again and it worked.

requests for canola2 team

1. av sync in youtube videos. mytube does that why not

2. full screen stretched video like old canola


2. internet radio stream information.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

So far so good with the new updates. The coverart is a lot better now, even though I noticed I still have a problem of albums appearing more than once or not at all (there is a blank area where an album should be. For some reason I can't click the top two left album covers no matter what. For what it's worth, the tracks are ~90% ogg vorbis files.

As for the video thumbnails, I have it scan my mytube directory and most of the flv files thumbnails come up showing black. I believe this is due to the thumbnails being taken too early in the video. The thumbnails should be snapped considerably further into the video.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Ok, finally fixed Canola, first I uninstalled Canola, then installed Canola and tried to run it, it worked fine, then installed Canola tuning, it worked fine, then installed 1 plugin (youtube), it worked, installed themes, it's still working, installed last.fm plugin, and still works.
Looks like installing everything together before running canola for the first time breaks the plugins.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I fixed it as well, this thread helped:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=23902
Basically that issue arises when you install a partial version 10 of Canola.

FOr me I went into my repositories and first tried disabling just the extras-development repository, then uninstalled and re-installed. I still had the same issue.

I went back into my repositories, and disabled all my repositories except for the Maemo Extras which contains Canola 9. I uninstalled and re-installed and Voila`!
NOw it works!

:D

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I'm having an issue with podcasts not "sticking" when I add them to Canola. I have posted a bug report (#2945) in the garage.

Basically, when I add an url for a podcast Canola searches for the feed and then adds it to the list. However, when I leave the podcast setup screen and go into the podcast "listen" screen most of the added podcasts are no longer there.

It doesn't seem like specific podcasts are being dropped. It seems random. Every time I try to add any podcast, something from my list is dropped.

I've tried running the Canola cleanup and reinstalling but it didn't help anything.

I just ran canola -vvv in Xterm but the output was too long to copy/paste. Is there a way to export this output directly to a file so I can put it here?

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

redirects the log to a file (on the external MMC in this example).

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Sachin : this has been explained a couple of time :
Mytube is not "using" mplayer. It really opens mplayer window and plays the video.
then what you have it's a fullscreen mplayer playing the video. Mplayer embbedded mode... the one that we use (so we can draw the video inside canola) has issues, with performance and AV sync... we are trying to figure out how to solve this but looks harder than we thought.



Stretched? You mean to take the whole screen?


note taken!

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

OK, I've been using Beta9 on N800, but where do you get the beta10 files?

Thanks.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

I think he means the aspect ratio bug where the video was stretched across the whole screen, no matter what the original aspect ratio was. I personally don't like this stretching and would rather prefer a letterbox view to e.g. crop off black borders from some 4:3 videos.

Re: Canola2 Beta 10
 

Duh! That makes sense. I keep forgetting that this is basically a mini linux system.

Anyway, here's the log. Hopefully there's something in it that helps.


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Nevermind. For whatever reason I can't post the file. I guess that's ok though since nothing got put into the file to begin with.