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It was left intact just for Qwerty's use.

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I suggest taking a look at many of the posts that CrashandDie have made here - they are often both angry and demeaning. Not something I think a moderator should express.

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Is that in the wrong order? I mean, bit of a waste of time after you've already killed 'em...

I'm with Texrat on this one. There's something about the degree of rabble rousing froma few certain individuals that suggest they're not here to be useful contributing members. I'm not talking about people who make constructive criticisms or who dare to believe that n900 is less than God's best gift since Christmas, but a few people who seem to delight in rabble rousing.

Mind, it might help if the rabble weren't quite so willing to be roused...

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awwwwwww - Kathy's being Troll'ist!!!

I say feed the trolls, feed the trolls!!! - oh hang on a minute - we're talking about rabbles, not trolls..... Screw the trolls, slap the rabble rousers :)

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It was the cutest troll image I could find. ;)

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I know my writing style isn't the most gentle to say the least, however I am never truly angry. Yes, I can be rough, but it is not because I am to the point that I am therefore humiliating anyone; at least that's never my intention.

This being said, should you want to argue your point with a few examples in a private message, I'd love to see things through your eyes. Going through my messages quickly I had to go to the 3rd or 4th page of messages to start seeing some that are a bit rough.

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and that ^ is the hallmark of a good moderator-- not politically "correct" perfection.

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The same should apply to everyday members, too. :)

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Here's a thought... can we make a probationary period on new accounts creating a new thread? If someone couldn't sign up and make a thread the same minute, it would probably filter out some of the trolls and noise.

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The benefits of that approach would have to be weighed against the inconvenience (and resulting consequences) for new users who sign up just to post a unique insightful thread with potential to enrich the lives of all community members.

I'm not saying I have an opinion on which should weigh more. Just throwing this out there for consideration.

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Personally I would like to see more moderators with 'lock' and 'move' powers in the n900 space, preferably people in a range of time zones. Perhaps something that could be done as part of the redesign?

The thread which sparked this thread was several pages old before I got to it. If a mod had moved it to the 'competitors' forum when it was fresh, I suspect the flames would have died in the low-oxygen atmosphere there. Equally, once it was well alight, a 'fire door' policy of closing it with a statement to the effect that it has become too agressive and would be -reopened when tempers are cooled would have stopped it deteriorating, and it could have been reopened quietly in a few days time when it was on the 6th page.

The effect of this would be that people who have constructive criticism to offer would still get their chance to post and contribute, while the rabble rousers and pitch-fork brigade would learn very quickly that their behaviour was unrewarded.

Please don't see this as a criticism of the existing mods: I know they do a tremendous job and what I'm suggesting would be yet more work.

Edit to add: I've been in places where n00b restrictions were of various ty[es, but I really don't think preventing new thread posting would work. Many of our n00bs turn up, ask a question they can't find an answer to anywhere else, get an answer and never reappear. I'd hate to lose that facility for people who're stuck on something.

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what about having the first thread created by the user to go through moderation before it appears on the site? once you have an approved thread, you're allowed to start new threads without passing moderation. this approach works well for wordpress comments in my experience.

this gives the moderator a chance to
- give a personal welcome to the new tmo member
- prevent duplicate threads from being started
- all in all give good advice on the specific issue, should it not seem to be a good idea for a new thread to be created.
- and also, even if the thread is perfectly fine, the moderator could send a generic welcome dm to confirm approval, including good tips and tricks for tmo.

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Now that's creative thinking... though a lot more work for the mods.

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/me volunteering to assist.

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I think edgar2 would make a great moderator.

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Hi,

Could we have a status update regarding edgar2's and my own candidacies? Regardless of the respective decisions, it would be nice if there could be some kind of communication with the involved parties.

Thanks,

(damn I sound like a manager)

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Probably not a bad idea to at least get an update on the admins thought process - quite a few people here have very good ideas on how to improve, and some i think would be very good mod's :)
(I allways thought of Kathy as more of a rocker - sorry Tex, another UK based joke i think)

Anyway, would be nice to see in one list who has stepped forward, been nominated etc :) - people like Andre the bugmaster, Tex, Qgil and General A make my life so much easier, as they are just willing to reply sensibly and with the correct information, even if they have done the graft, so to speak finding all the answers.

So Kudos to you all for being so helpful :) - more help is always needed!!!

(I'm the last one in my office on xmas eve, eeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Time to go to the pub i think! - Happy Xmas! :) ) - yeah i know, wrong forum post/thread thingy - that's what mod's are for, hehehe!

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I'm disappointed to see how little reaction there is to this thread.

Reggie, I was hoping at least an ounce of communication was possible, but sadly it would appear that the no-com memo has seeped into other spheres as well.

Nearly a month has gone by since I initially offered to help moderate the forums, however nothing has been communicated. Not even a simple private message explaining moderators aren't currently sought after, nor a reply to the thread explaining my candidacy had not been accepted.

I can understand that moderators and admins are busy, however I do not understand how we can let people ruin this forum with useless rants and posts, and do absolutely nothing about it.

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I also wonder what is the problem here?

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CrashandDie is now a moderator of General, Community, and Fremantle.

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I second that :) with my lowly humble opinion :)

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Quim? Shocked at you for not reading what the problem is - i should send you to the search pages like everyone else! (Added muhahaha somewhere after that phrase)....

I don't think there is a huge problem, but more added assistance needed. having the extra mod's and movers working is a good idea :)

Also, would love to see alot more thread renaming - seen some recently - but the thread title is key for me when hunting things :)

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Please respond to the request by the current moderators of brainstorm to add me and Chemist to that list. There's a lot of cleanup yet to do!

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i think this forum would benefit from a sticky in each section with (strict) rules regarding what you can talk about in said section. that would also greatly assist moderating, since you would have some written rules to motivate your moderating actions (moving threads, removing posts or whatever ir is one can do as a moderator.

Naturally general, ot and competitors would have rather loose rules compared to the more specific threads, but written rules are very nice to have.

Regarding who gets to moderate, I'd say the council, who are infact elected by the community, should have the power to select moderators, from those willing. (I might not be uptodate on how the process of council works, but it feels like a democracy).

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More newly appointed moderators:

Edgar2: Brainstorm, Applications, and Maemo 6 / Harmattan
Chemist: Brainstorm, Community
Flandry: Brainstorm, Games, and N900

Thanks guys!

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I will, again, throw my hat in the ring for Multimedia, although I didn't meet all the required criteria. If there is a better suited candidate I will gladly defer to their expertise.

Regards,

Thor

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This is great to see, and hopefully thorbo will get his shot eventually, too.

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I simply meant the problem for not approving new moderators. That's all and is now fixed. :)

About sticky posts, just create a new thread with a sticky draft for a specific forum needing it and we will help you tuning it.

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Via "Report This" and private messages, pelago has demonstrated a strong interest in merging and moving threads to prevent fragmentation of discussion. Should he be willing, I'd support his promotion to moderator.

Also, I feel RevdKathy would make an excellent moderator, should she be willing.

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I agree. And i realize now that being mod of just N900 or just Maemo 5 is somewhat limiting because of the crosstalk there, so getting someone mod privileges in both who can merge threads between them would be great.

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I pre-empt Kathy feeling a bit "sheepish" after being nominated - but agree also :) - sensible people for moderators i say!

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Yes, I think any mod of a hardware forum should also be a mod of the corresponding OS forum(s). From what I've seen, pushing threads in N900 that aren't N900-hardware-specific or N900-overall-experience-reviews to Maemo 5 could be almost a full time job.

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I'd like to offer my candidacy in the N900 and Fremantle forums (and Applications, but there are already two moderators there), but not quite sure if I meet the 1 year criteria exactly.

1 year around, to proof that you have a good perspective.

I've been an "active lurker" ever since I got my N800 two and a half years ago, but only started posting since January 2nd, 2010. I have a pretty good understanding of how the community works (both in and out of talk.maemo.org), and the changes in trends inside the forums. Most of my contributions follow the Maemo Greeter ideals.

- 250 posts, enough to tell that you know how a poster feels like.

~389 Posts as of June 1, 2010.

- 100 Thanks received, so you somehow proof that you have support from a bunch of readers.

107 Thanks as of June 1, 2010, also, a video I posted (with a link here in the forums) got 305 views in about 12 hours.

- A plan. Why do you want to become a moderator.

I've noticed a subtle change in attitude in the forums towards hostility lately, and I would like to help curb it; especially since much of this hostility is towards Moderating methods. I'd take a calm and reasonable approach, and explain my actions when/where necessary. Water doesn't always work on fires.

- Visible activity and experience in the area or task you want moderate.

Most of my posts go to the Fremantle and N900 forums, with the occasional post in Applications. I try to help people to the extent of my knowledge, but if I don't know about a certain subject, I refer them to another t.m.o user, or other documentation (wiki, old threads, etc.).

I try to bring threads that have turned into flame wars or off-topic discussions back to the original purpose of the thread, if it is still relevant (not solved, new related problem, etc.).

Thanks for your consideration - Andy

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-Bump-

It seems this is the right place to apply for moderator status, but I take it there isn't a need for another moderator at the moment?

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Reggie is the only one who can promote people to moderator. I can only wish you luck.

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Reggie,

I lost my moderator status, was this planned?

Cheers,

Simon

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It was associated with your former front page picture status.

:p

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Nice one :D

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Newly appointed moderator:

xomm: Applications, Nokia N900, and Maemo 5 / Fremantle

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Reggie,

Could I be re-moderatorated? I seem to have lost my powers.

If not, not to worry, though I would appreciate knowing why they were removed.

Cheers,

Simon